Small white pill: 29% of Americans support the US breaking up into five smaller countries

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[–]Questionablethe Dumpster Arsonist · 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

A lot of these states would need to be cut in half, as many don't wish to be lumped in with their liberal cities.

[–]Nasser 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Issue with that is the economic and institutional weight these cities hold.Breakup of the US would have to be gradual.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Just do what Malaysia did to Singapore in the 50s.

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What did Malaysia do?

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Basically the racial tensions between the Chinese dominated Singapore with egalitarian laws, and the Malay ethnonationalist policies in the rest of Malaysia, led to the expulsion of Singapore from Malaysia pretty quickly after they first tried unifying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAP%E2%80%93UMNO_relations#Conflict_between_the_parties

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Very interesting. Any usable lessons for ethnonationalist separation in the West?

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly it's not very applicable in the US at least since ethnonationalist control of any institutions beyond small localities is impossible. Not so sure about Europe, I know Estonia has an ethnonationalist party in charge.

For the Americans they should instead learn from the way indigenous communities in Mexico have taken up arms and secured their towns from cartels and feds alike. Vice has done a number of videos on the conflict in Mexico featuring them lately.

Using geographic checkpoints to enforce local sovereignty and make it extremely painful to enforce control should be the goal. Will the army be able to force control of belligerent localities? Sure, but the harsher the methods the more will sympathize with anyone fighting back. As the US deteriorates it will be less able to maintain its army and its force projection will no longer even extend across its own country.