Creating an all new White state is more realistic than ending immigration or deportations.

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

US society in 1860 bears zero resemblance to today, and it never collapsed, you just had two opposing sides that fought a war. It was also an ethnically homogenous and highly religious anglo protestant nation. It's leaders were of the same stock as its poor. I dont even know why you bring it up. What point are you trying to make exactly? I understand a collapse would be horrible. That in and of itself has zero bearing on whether a collapse happens. The US economy collapsed almost overnight in 1929, and we are in an even more precarious position today. Not just economically, but socially and ethnically. We werent the cauldron of competing and divided tribes we are today, nor were we ruled over by a corrupt hostile ethno religious group that has zero history of successfully running a nation. All the indications are that the US would see a total breakdown of social order when things get bad, and the conditions for things getting bad are all in place, its only a matter of time.

You know, I've read these comments all the time about how the U.S is somehow becoming a terrible place to live or that ethnic tensions are rising, yet immigration to America remains at an all time high but violent crime has dropped significantly. That's not the sign of a nation that is suppose to collapse. You even mentioned that the U.S Civil War was brought about two ethnically homogenous and religious sides killing each other. Well, the USA today has even more races and religions compared to 1860, but there hasn't been an apocalyptic race war that by all means, should have happened already.

It's not to anyone's major benefit to let the USA be allowed to destroy itself. Both immigrants, Western allies and corporations alike understand this system, and will do everything to make sure it stays in place.

[–]antireddit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You know, I've read these comments all the time about how the U.S is somehow becoming a terrible place to live or that ethnic tensions are rising, yet immigration to America remains at an all time high but violent crime has dropped significantly.

We no shit immigration to America still remains high, because were getting the poorest and least successful people of the world who come from even worse poverty, and they know they will be let in and allowed to stay now. It's all relative. White nations have avoided those levels of dysfunction, but our Jewish elite are replacing whites, so its reasonable to assume the nation will look increasingly like the nations those people came from as they are brought here en masse. It hasnt happened yet because there are still huge numbers of whites here to keep the flame of successful European civilization alive in North America, but that will become increasingly difficult as whites become a minority.

Well, the USA today has even more races and religions compared to 1860, but there hasn't been an apocalyptic race war that by all means, should have happened already.

We saw nationwide race riots in 2020 for months on end, something the nation has never seen before. I guess you missed that? Why do you think an "apocalyptic" all out race war should have happened already? It takes two sides to fight a war, and so far all whites have done is fall all over themselves apologizing and giving the other side more shit to appease them as their hatred, attacks, and demands are only increasing thanks to a Jewish media that continuously incites hatred of whites. They seem intent on creating this race war, for reasons that would take many more paragraphs to explain.

It's not to anyone's major benefit to let the USA be allowed to destroy itself. Both immigrants, Western allies and corporations alike understand this system, and will do everything to make sure it stays in place.

Again, your faith in Jewish competence and benevolence has no basis in reality or history. Immigrants are just their tools of demographic warfare. Western Allies are powerless to stop the US decline into failed state and are increasingly facing similar problems at home as mass immigration continues there. As for corporations, I already addressed this a couple times, I am not going to address it again. I get it. In Disney, Goldman Sachs and Amazon you trust. Good luck with that.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We no shit immigration to America still remains high, because were getting the poorest and least successful people of the world who come from even worse poverty, and they know they will be let in and allowed to stay now. It's all relative. White nations have avoided those levels of dysfunction, but our Jewish elite are replacing whites, so its reasonable to assume the nation will look increasingly like the nations those people came from as they are brought here en masse. It hasnt happened yet because there are still huge numbers of whites here to keep the flame of successful European civilization alive in North America, but that will become increasingly difficult as whites become a minority.

I'm not a fan of the super Liberal states (or well, Liberalism in general) but California or New York have minority white populations and they still haven't collapsed or look like Somalia. The mistake you are making is ignoring the different history that exists in these third world countries compared to the U.S.

We saw nationwide race riots in 2020 for months on end, something the nation has never seen before.

Incorrect. The worst of the race riots was right after reconstruction, or from 1860 ~ 1920. It was called the Nadir and it even lead to local law enforcement participating in the chaos. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadir_of_American_race_relations

By the way, there have also been polls conducted that show most Americans support Black Lives Matter. So I don't expect any race war or riots to last, since Americans are shown to sympathize for the cause.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/06/12/amid-protests-majorities-across-racial-and-ethnic-groups-express-support-for-the-black-lives-matter-movement/

Again, your faith in Jewish competence and benevolence has no basis in reality or history. Immigrants are just their tools of demographic warfare. Western Allies are powerless to stop the US decline into failed state and are increasingly facing similar problems at home as mass immigration continues there. As for corporations, I already addressed this a couple times, I am not going to address it again. I get it. In Disney, Goldman Sachs and Amazon you trust. Good luck with that.

It's not that I have "faith", it's just how the modern world now works. The Cold War was basically proof or a major experiment at which two competing ideologies will rule the world. The Soviets or "anti-capitalists" eventually crumbled, leaving behind the USA as the last great superpower. Now, maybe America could fall in the future. Maybe it wont. It's just that if it were to happen, we can expect practically every nation who have direct economic ties with America to also feel a shock. Nobody who values having a roof over their head will want to see their U.S ally go the way of the Soviets. We have no other choice in this matter, unless you do leave America/Western civilization and live in another nation that is completely independent of them.