Should Hitler have won WW2?

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yes I get it there was a Euthinasia program in Nazi Germany. Wow. Guess that bad Corporal Hitler was evil after all -- those type of Eugenic policies didn't originate with big bad ebil Hitler BTW.

Is supporting Euthanasia suppose to be a good defense of Hitler? I don't want the government to invade my home and remove me for being "ill". Sounds like the current Covid pandemic and how the government abuses its powers now.

"The government says you're sick. Here, take this mandatory bullet to the head!"

People volunteered for the SS and died for SS from the people you think Hitler was just going to throw into camps because he was a 'supremacist'. They weren't conscripted. People like Degrelle who wasn't German also became some of the most decorated and high up commanders in the SS and to his dying day defended Nazism. The idea that there was some hatred of a Belgian just because he was Belgian is ridiculous.

We call those people useful idiots. I could probably volunteer for the Chinese Army or proclaim eternal support for Xi. That changes nothing about the Chinese government and what they really think of us Westerners. Hitler absolutely would have chucked away those people once they outlived their usefulness. He already did the same within his own party. Look up Ernst Rohm for example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_R%C3%B6hm#Death

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yes Ernst Roehm therefore Hitler kills everyone just for no reason. (That fag got what was coming to him and he wasn't just killed for no reason the Brown Shirts were becoming dangerous to Hitler's ambitions.)

Can we just agree that I accept Hitler could be very cruel, made many mistakes and was defeated. I accept all this.

He was still fighting for what I consider is right and just and that is a bigger battle that transcends those errors.

The alternative is the leaders of every other power who were equally cruel BUT ALSO fighting for everything I hate and loathe.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yes Ernst Roehm therefore Hitler kills everyone just for no reason.

Hitler's final meltdown in 1945 proved he lost his mind and was willing to execute anyone for the most ludicrous reason. It's ironic, but even Hitler despised himself, since he got himself killed in the end...

He was still fighting for what I consider what is right and just and that is a bigger battle that transcends those errors. The alternative is the leaders of every other power who were equally cruel and disgusting BUT ALSO fighting for everything I hate and loathe.

It's more rational to accept that every leader back then had flaws or lead to terrible outcomes. But Hitler stood ontop the pinnacle of failure. You want to believe what he was fighting for was "right". Well it also meant millions of other Europeans died in that crossfire.

With the exception of perhaps Stalin and the Chinese Communists, none of the Allied leaders were looking to kill millions of their own people again once WW2 ended.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

none of the Allied leaders were looking to kill millions of their own people again once WW2 ended.

No of course not. Why kill their own people when there was a million or so Germans for the Allies to rape and murder after the war.

You want to believe what he was fighting for was "right". Well it also meant millions of other Europeans died in that crossfire.

Could have sworn there were other actors in that war.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

No of course not. Why kill their own people when there was a million or so Germans for the Allies to rape and murder after the war.

Germany is still around today, along with the rest of Europe. I would even argue that the Germans got off pretty easy, since the U.S granted many Scientists complete amnesty and even paid out of their own wallets to rebuild Germany instead of leaving it as a bombed out crater.

Could have sworn there were other actors in that war.

You're correct there were more actors. But that's only proof why WW2 should never have been triggered. I can only imagine how much more apocalyptic the war would have been had nuclear weapons entered the picture earlier. We might not have been alive or having this conversation right now if all of humanity was killed off by Hitler's shameful posturing.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ohhhhh so you call millions of death in one breath evil and now millions of Germans are raped and murdered after the war and they 'got off pretty easy'.

Go away.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why should I feel sorry for a bully who didn't care when it was my friends getting slaughtered? Once again, no one asked Hitler to make their own lives miserable, yet he felt compelled to do so anyway.

[–]ShiversRussia2017 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with your points but I'd kinda recommend you drop the argument, you're not gonna change any minds here and are leaving yourself open to a ban considering how sensitive some of the mods are in regard to Nazi criticism.