Average IQ of Native Americans without admixture?

submitted by SoylentCapitalist from self.debatealtright

sorted by:
top
newinsightfulfun
you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

pretty hard to make a call on that one, due to extensive cultural differences invalidating the IQ testing protocol.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Actually there's good evidence that on IQ tests with a higher cultural load -- yes, amazingly, people who test these things have thought about cultural differences being an explanation for varied results and attempted to quantify the cultural component in different tests -- the gap between different groups narrows not widens leading one to think that this is not an explanation for what we see with IQ testing. (See Rushton and other for the evidence on that.)

Also if this were some kind of explanation then you'd have to come up with -- and YOU CAN'T -- an explanation for why the IQ test designed by Europeans time and time again finds that NE Asians have higher avg IQ's than Whites.

The tests are rigorous, replicable and sound. They're nearly the only part of psychology that is -- that's not my opinion it's Steven Pinker's. Yet this, of all things, is repeated by IQ denialists despite having been disproven a million times only to come back like some monster in a horror film you think is dead.

Exactly what cultural bias do you think, for instance, is part of the Raven's Progressive Matrices section which is common in IQ tests?

[–][deleted]  (1 child)

[deleted]

    [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Because I don't think they're 'arbitrary' which is a standard retard IQ denialist line. I think they're a pretty good measure of raw cognitive ability and also it doesn't matter to me if IQ tests prove Ashkenazi Jews or NE Asians are on average higher IQ than Whites. That's not the point and it's probably a good habit to not just dismiss things that are true but add complication to your own position. As for your point about 'Natives' I have no fucking clue what you're babbling about and given the Pilgrims arrived 2 or 3 hundred years before the existence of IQ tests I'm unsure as how anyone used IQ tests to say how 'natives deserved' anything.