The Dissident Right/WN obsesses too much over race-mixing. It's really not that big of a deal, IMO.

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[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

When they breed with whites in the next generation, the offspring is 75%

That won't happen with all the imported non whites breeding at large rates.

It's really a quadruple threat

  1. Non whites are imported

  2. Non whites breed more than whites (and given white money and media praise to help them breed)

  3. Whites are told they shouldn't have children to save the planet from their genetics which are prone to racism, colonizing, genocide, and even worse pollution! (keep in mind the people telling you this will also say that non whites aren't genetically prone to anything; implying so would be evil and enough evidence to take your business or career. Non whites according to the system are 'blank slates' and if they do have temperaments it's towards being geniuses and gifted athletes). White women are told to delay child birth until they have a career. White couples are constantly told in jew run magazines and websites they need millions of dollars to raise children and it would just be better to live double income no kids. It's more fun goys!

  4. Whites are told that if they do have sex it should be hedonic sex with someone of the same gender or with someone of a different race.

All 4 of these are a problem. Although #4 would not be as much of a problem if the other three weren't being pushed.

It's bad optics when white men in the DR bitch about white women sleeping with blacks

If you look hard enough you'll notice that people that are doing this are not really alt right or dissidents. Most genuine alt right folk are very aware of optics. I'm not a fan of Richard Spencer but if you were around when he came on the scene doing interviews he was not like the 80's and 90's white nationalists. He was more put together and expressed our views in a more optical way.* I did not hear Spencer rant on and on about black and white race mixing. In fact the only time you really hear that stuff is in leftist propaganda portrayals of the white nationalist movement.

I appreciate your post and you seem genuine. I think you are on the right track. Dissidents should not come off as clunky, cruel, etc. The hate bus idea that GLR used in the 60's will not work with today's indoctrinated white normies.

*I still think that Spencer was chosen by the press as a way to show how 'evil rednecks and nazis have just put on suit'. Spencer has not been a good spokesmen or leader for the alt right IMO. He seems to have bad instincts for leadership.

edit. I'm going to tack on one more thing to my own comment. Even a small group of non whites living in a white country can be a problem if Jews (or another anti white group) run all your institutions.

For that reason, mixed-race people are not a genetic threat in white-majority and white supermajority countries. Mulattoes, Hapas, etc have 50% European DNA

Minorities can be used as a weapon against the white majority. Can we have a 10-15% non white population in a white ethnostate? Sure but the reigns of power and all institutions would need to be firmly controlled by good faith whites so that the minority is not used as a weapon against the majority.

[–]AltAlt[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There are definitely a lot of authentic dudes in the DR/AR/WN who have a pathological hatred of coal burners. I've been in these circles for years. Hang out long enough on WN twitter, Stormfront, Gab, or hell even just here and you'll see it. I doubt the people behind Coal Fax are being ironic either.

It reeks of insecurity and sexual jealousy. That is the vibe it gives to 'normies' and it drives away women from the movement to accuse them all of being coal-burning sluts. IMO it's completely unnecessary. Not just because of what i said in the OP but because the vast majority of white women don't go for blacks or other non-white men. Most of the women I see with mixed offspring are not exactly Aryan beauty queens. They're women that, if we're honest, get passed on by quality white men.... most white men don't want to date women who are fat, single mothers, etc. Whereas there are black and other non-white men who see any white woman as a prize, at least to fuck for a while. It's actually a major source of bitterness among non-white women that many of their men would rather get with a 250 lb white woman than a black woman. Hang out on some feminist subreddits for a while

I agree with the rest of what you said.

Yeah... public figures don't talk about it or have a more nuanced view. Mark Collett said he would accept people with degenerate histories into the movement as long as they learned the error of their ways, including white chicks who once dated blacks. Many would not, though.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are definitely a lot of authentic dudes in the DR/AR/WN who have a pathological hatred of coal burners.

With all due respect I don't see it. You have to realize that our movement is highly infiltrated by Israeli and US intelligence disinformation. Many posts that rant about coal burners are not genuine. Most people in the alt right that hate coal burners hate them because they are degenerate and hedonic and not because they race mix. White women are the least likely racial group to race mix. Burning coal is a forced meme. This endless lionization of blacks by jew media is having an impact on some women but again it's marginal.

I've always said that the first redpill is gender not race. You can't be a committed white nationalists while still being blue pilled on women. Getting hung up because some cute white teen girl posts a picture of herself in a swimming pool with 5 blacks guys is blue pilled. It's weak. It's a misunderstanding of female nature. She's not in the pool because she likes black men. She's in the pool because social media gives her points for being there. There's no reason to hate women for who they are.

All women, including white women, are going to be promiscuous if they aren't controlled by powerful moral institutions. Women are getting more loose because Jews break apart the fabric of any healthy community that gives them shelter. That's what white nationalists hate. They hate the betrayal. They hate the subversion. They hate people without honor. The occasional race mixing is a symptom of a Jewish disease. Even some of the most verbose anti coal burners like Azmador express more nuanced views about the topic on closer inspection.

It reeks of insecurity and sexual jealousy.

That's why Jews push such perceptions. They know whites are high trust and honor bound so they do their best to shape dissidents into 'incels' and women haters and many whites lap it up.

That is the vibe it gives to 'normies' and it drives away women from the movement to accuse them all of being coal-burning sluts.

This is a serious misunderstanding. The dissident right doesn't want women in the movement. That would be suicide. We want fit, intelligent, goal oriented men that would die before being dishonored. We want men that are willing to sacrifice themselves for something bigger. When a revolution gains enough able bodied men willing to resist tyranny then women become a trivial matter.

because the vast majority of white women don't go for blacks or other non-white men

I think we are in agreement on this.

Most of the women I see with mixed offspring are not exactly Aryan beauty queens

Again, nobody is disagreeing with you here.

Many would not, though.

I think you are falling for a lot of outside manufactured perceptions of white nationalists. Obviously we oppose race mixing but we don't walk around in a constant state of bitter jealous rage about it.

[–]LetssavethefirsworldReturn to Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The double income no kids saying is a huge gayop. The income is not double. It's just living together as roommates

There's no "doubling" or magical investment that unlocks when you chose not to have kids. It's literally just being roommates