Fundamentally, ALL military forces are trained extremist terrorists (murder machines) and communist (totalitarian socialism without democracy) under a commander in chief to shield and expand tyranny. Try to change my mind.

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[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Who cares? Global kumbaya lolbert world will never be a thing, so your opinions on the morality of military force are irrelevant. Your enemies have armies, so you're gonna need an army too

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

" Global kumbaya lolbert world will never be a thing "

I don't know what this means.

I said nothing about morality, so your judgement is irrelevant.

I said nothing about tribalist Us vs Them or "enemies", much less needing or not needing defences.

The question rephrased is:

Would you agree that ALL military forces are inherently totalitarian communist structures?

If not, why? And how would you "fix" or redefine my OP statement?

[–]president_camacho 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The Nordic nations(IE Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark and the Netherlands) had militaries for the entire 20th century that did not behave in the manner you describe. A military can be as evil or just as the people it serves, or a lot worse. Those nordic countries had militaries that did not operate in the manner you claim all militaries do. They protected the people of those nations, no more, and no less.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Would you say that those military structures were not a vertical hierarchy, a republic, a democracy, a monarchy - or consensus driven, open, transparent, or paid their own way by capitalistically earning the means somehow?

I'm not talking about their nature (good/evil) or their actions (peaceful/protecting/defensive/offensive) or anything other than their socialist totalitarian hierarchical structure.

[–]president_camacho 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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