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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

People can trace the rot of Western civilization to several milestones. They are from backwards:

  1. Collapse of the Soviet Union(1991): Ended all opposition to globohomo neoliberalism. Eastern Europe stops being a racially sealed off zone.

  2. Defeat of Germany in WW2(1945): Handed over the sovereignty of the world to two materialistic, multicultural powers(USA and the USSR) from the hands of Britain, France and Germany.

  3. The Bolshevik revolution in Russia(1917): Destroyed Russia's population potential. Created the onslaught of Marxism. This mobilized the forces of anti-racism and anti-white politics worldwide. It gave the Jews, at least till 1948, an enormous golem that could be used to crush Christian civilization. The threat of communism also enabled the passage of civil rights and other unpopular liberal policies in the 60s and 70s as the population was forced to compromise to face the greater Soviet threat.

  4. Creation of the Federal reserve(1913): Ensured Jewish domination of America and created the framework for the Jewish world order.

  5. Rothschild strikes gold(1815): Nathan Rothschild uses advance knowledge of Allied victory at Waterloo to collapse the British stock market and then buy up Britain's debt and assets. This enabled the family to rise to the forefront of global banking. The family would use this boost to become the world's largest banking cartel, at one point controlling 70% of world banking. They would lead the charge in forming the Jewish world order.

  6. The French revolution(1789): In a sense, this was in a way the end of traditional western civilization. It led to the destruction of monarchy, hierarchy and church power across Europe. Began the modern age, and established masonic liberalism across Europe.

  7. Battle of Rocori(1643): French victory in the battle ensured the survival of protestantism in Europe. Without a single Roman catholic church to unite society, the ability of society to restrain usury, liberalism and other heresies became limited.

  8. Protestant reformation(1517): Opened the road of liberalism, individualism and usury.

  9. Renaissance? - some people go as far as the renaissance, pointing to supposed kabbalah and occult influences taking root in this period

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

1945 is the real break in history.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd say its 1917 tbh. I'm going to get a lot of flak for this, but imo, Russia had historically been the defender of Christianity and European civilization for the last millennia.

They destroyed the Jewish Khazar Empire. They absorbed most of the blow from the Mongol invasion. Destroyed the turkic khanates that raided and terrorized Europe for centuries. They invaded and destroyed the Crimean Khanate that enslaved millions of Europeans for centuries.

And in the 19th century, they almost single handedly liberated most of the Balkans from Turkish occupation. Above all, for centuries they contained the world's largest Jewish population, and greatly reduced their ability to corrupt the world by shuttering them in the ghettoes.

The Bolshevik revolution however, turned Europe's greatest champion into its worst enemies. From there, marxism was exported and financed worldwide.

If the Bolshevik revolution never happened, there would've been no rise of marxism across the world, no nazi revolution in Germany, no second world war and American domination of the world, and a strong Christian Empire would've stood guard over Europe.

And without the joojoo of Marxism, it would've been very difficult for the Jews to pass unpopular liberal policies like civil rights and feminism in the West. Americans by and large compromised on that stuff in order to unite against the allegedly greater Soviet threat. In a world where there was no Soviet Union, there probably would've been civil war in the US over desegregation.

Southern men back then still had balls and enough clout in the military to start an insurrection.

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/thread.

Although I would go so far back as the creation of the Catholic church, with its pope, with the "help" of Jews, whose goal was to simply subvert Christianity and turn this religion in a tool of lasting political power, which they achieved perfectly.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

While i'm not fond of Christianity, I don't believe in this narrative that Christianity is this long con played by the Jews. Christianity if anything, was a primary source of antisemitism for most of European history as Christians blamed the Jews for killing christ. The Catholic Church directly stood against liberalism, marxism and the Jewish agenda at least till 1945. After that, it was infiltrated by Marxists and CIA and it was more or less forced to bend the knee to America to protect itself from communism. The Orthodox church otoh, to this day serves a bastion of traditional values in Russia and Eastern Europe.

The Protestants are however....a bottomless pit. Its not surprising that they are that way, since they jettisoned any objective authority and became religious engineers. Every conman, king and lunatic set up his own little sect. Its hardly surprising that the Jews invented their own little sect, ideal for breeding shabbos goyim and popularized it through the mass media they controlled

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well this implies almost the entirety of Northern European history was in a decline if we are going back all the way to the Renaissance.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wouldn't say European civilization was declining in 1643, but the root of the rot lay in the reformation. Imo, the decline of the west began in september 1914, when it engaged in a fratricidal war over mutual paranoia and spheres of interest.

[–]president_camacho 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The media, and lately big tech, have been the ones driving this decline, especially in recent years, and both are owned and controlled primarily by Jews. That is the reality. Sure they may have taken advantage of this aspect of anglo culture to divide and conquer and exploit the anglo elites willingness to sell out their own, but that tendency is hardly unique to anglos or whites, and it doesnt happen to the extent were seeing spontaneously without Jewish involvement. Anglo class structure existed for centuries without it destroying anglo societies. In fact Britain itself thrived and created the seeds for becoming a world power during the several hundred year time period Jews were banned from their shores.

This take just seems like a Jewish cope. I dont see how you could possibly believe this given the events of the last year and the media's behavior. Just turn on CNN and see for yourself. It's not anglos driving that coverage. Anglos didnt just wake up one day hating themselves and trying to destroy their own societies. Previously Anglo owned CNN didnt turn into a blatantly anti white neocon 24/7 clown show until Jews largely took over and Jeff Zucker was put in charge, and you see the same thing with all the other blatantly anti white media outlets pushing America's decline. As Anglos have slowly been replaced by Jews in positions of power and Jewish wealth and leverage has increased we have seen this decline. There is a direct cause and effect.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Jews were allowed back into England in the 17th century which coincides with the development of liberalism. CNN is irrelevant, the entire media is radically and overtly anti white now and it began due to influence of social media progressivism going mainstream not some sudden take over by Jews. Jewish media long predates the current radical anti white media which has risen in the last decade. Hollywood was Jewish since its beginnings and only recently did it decide to no longer be able to tell stories with all white casts and replace Europes own history and fantasy stories with foreign peoples. In fact not that long ago we could still see white people playing non white characters with make up.

Progress in "equality" and the type of moralism that liberalism creates doesn't stop so it is foolish to look to past liberal eras and think "progress" would have stopped there if not for the Jews. Perhaps we could theorize it wouldn't have become so suicidal without the Jews but the roots of decline and Jews ascension are found in the individualist money based culture that liberalism gave rise to.

[–]president_camacho 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jewish media long predates the current radical anti white media which has risen in the last decade.

So your argument is that Jews have long controlled the US media, and yet its only recently become blatantly anti white, so Jews therefore must not be the cause of this. First off the same argument could be said about anglo liberal tradition as you call it. It's been around for a pretty long time and while it's always produced a healthy dose of bleeding hearts, it never rabidly turned on itself and started self cannibalizing until now.

So we are faced with two possible sudden changes in behavior explaining what is happening. Jewish media suddenly becoming anti white, or anglos themselves suddenly becoming anti white for no particular reason. Which is more likely? We can trace this sudden turn in Jewish media behavior to a couple major factors.

  1. The internet. Prior to the internet, it was fairly easy to keep the population docile and under control, and guide a population in the direction you wanted without too much effort. But then the largely unregulated and uncensored internet popped up and threw a monkey wrench in things, giving rise to alternative right thinking and expression, as the right was no longer led by the nose by Foxnews, the WST and mainstream conservatism inc. For the first time since WW2, Jews faced open criticism and discussion about their behavior, and they did not like it one bit, because lets face it, they had been up to a lot of things that would upset people.

  2. The rise of the anti Israel, anti wall street left. This led to many Jews becoming increasingly anti white and unhinged. They now felt under siege by both the far left and now elements of the right, and a major source of their wealth and power was under direct threat from the left. For a while they kvetched to themselves and occasionally lashed out publicly, like this liberal media professor basically making the case that Israel would be justified in nuking Europe over left wing support for the Palestinians. http://www.geocities.ws/janetgranofsky/homosaps/perlmutter.html

Eventually it was determined that something must be done about this, that the internet must be brought under Jewish control, and that whites must be punished for their insolence. Slowly replacing us worked fine in the past but that was now directly threatened by the unregulated internet and the rise in 'noticing' that resulted. This view preexisted Trump, but Trump's presidency gave it a sense of urgency as Jews epically freaked out once they realized the alternative right was backing Trump, and that Trump directly threatened the replacement. This is when the anti white media and Jewish censorship and deplatforming kicked into high gear. Blacks were enlisted(or rather incited), along with Antifa, to silence and intimidate the anti wall street left and openly attack and intimidate whites that even thought about showing an ounce of white solidarity. The great awokening exploded into the chaos we see today. Rabid racial justice politics also distracted from economic justice politics that threatened to unite the far left and the alternative right against a common enemy.

Now you also have the coming to fruition of decades of intentional anti white and pro replacement propaganda, which was well documented by people like Kevin Mcdonald well before woke politics went nuclear. I think the culture of critique series began in 1994, way before all this, and yet it accurately predicted where we were headed and explained why.

That's not to say that your anglo liberal tradition theory has nothing to do with this, and social media certainly could contribute to it becoming increasingly pathological. It probably does play a role as well, but the primary instigator in all this is the media and academia, and its clear that the internet, the alt right, and Trump caused an epic freakout among the Jewish elite and this is why the Jewish media suddenly become so openly anti white. Another contributing factor is simply that whites numbers have been reduced sufficiently and Jewish wealth and internet control had grown to the point Jewish elites felt emboldened enough to accelerate things. Also the repeal of the fairness doctrine allowed Jewish media elites to unleash their inner goy hatred, as they could endlessly editorialize "the news".

Now this is all an over simplification of things. I'd have to write a novel here to go over every factor leading to the clown show we see now, and to list all the evidence I've come across that this is being driven by the Jewish elite. You've probably been exposed to a lot of this evidence anyway, and have chosen to downplay it for whatever reason. Also keep in mind when I say "Jews" I'm generally referring to a subset of Jews. How large this subset is I have no idea. I only know they tend to be congregated in the media and among the wealthy. Most rank and file Jews are probably just extremely brainwashed NPCs who dont openly think about such things and have little to no influence even if they did.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

thanks for the history lesson rabbi, i too hate those anglos and jesuits! they are the real puppet masters, we can't forget those darned hibernians too!

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      [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

      Kind of extreme, but I agree on principle. The poor should be taken care of by the state/community, in exchange they must be required to undergo sterilization or take birth control. Humanely and voluntarily remove them from the gene pool.

      Vaccines should be dropped all together. People with weak immune systems will die out. Weak immune systems are a symptom of heavy mutational load and genetic defects, basically ugly people. And these uglies disproportionately tend to be anti-social leftists.

      Child mortality will slightly increase but in exchange the worst dregs will be pruned from the gene pool.

      Honestly, if you can't survive on the planet where your ancestors evolved to adapt to for millennia, then you don't deserve to live

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        [–]Minedwe 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        Are you mentally retarded? Humans have always needed cared for by their parents for years. Humans are far more complex than horses, if you haven't noticed.

        [–]DisgustResponse 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        He's a troll. Move on.

        [–]SoylentCapitalist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Vaccines should be dropped all together. People with weak immune systems will die out.

        Sorry, but this is retarded. Just because someone may have a weak immune system doesn't mean they don't have a mind that can help advance the human race.

        Weak immune systems are a symptom of heavy mutational load and genetic defects, basically ugly people.

        Source? What's the correlation?

        [–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Actually there was a paper correlating immunity to parasites with lower IQ...

        [–]asterias 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        If you are after strong immune systems, there are plenty of races in Asia and Africa that have achieved that already...

        [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Capitalism is the worst example of a Darwinist system, it is dysgenic in terms of both social mobility and its effects on the populace.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Indeed, it selects for ruthlessly domineering traits, completely abhorrent to a more evolved and elevated view of the potential of mankind. AND THAT IS WHY IT IS THE DOMINANT SYSTEM.

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          [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          Individualism is a sickness.

          [–]arainynightinskyrim 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          I think the guy is a muslim living in either the US or europe, he's basically describing what his people are doing in our lands, living thanks to welfare given to them by europeans, a literal parasitic class.

          [–]arainynightinskyrim 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Dude, aren't you that muslim lover from yesterday? Muslims in europe basically moved to lands whre they do not belong (europe) and live on the backs of europeans, they are a invading parasite class passing their inferior genes.

          [–]proc0 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          You underestimate the evil within the altruistic nature of societies. Welfare, helping the poor, releasing criminals, it's all a way to breed and select for "human cattle". The elites are attempting to completely own humans without them even noticing (with the guise of altruism) until it's too late.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          releasing criminals

          Executing criminals, yes. Releasing criminals, no.

          [–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          They need criminals so that people need police.

          [–]AidsVictim69 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Most people on the right are not "Spartan" rightwingers or social darwinists. They are interested in self, family, and social preservation of white societies.

          [–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

          In the 19th century the British even wasted their own money and resources to free slaves throughout the world. What we are seeing is late stage pathological altruism. Its roots are in various Protestant sects which also helped form the foundations of liberalism. These issues rooted in Protestant sects then mutated and became even worse with secularization.

          [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

          Which part of Protestant Liberalism teaches that racism is equality, science is racism, freedom is slavery, whiteness is evil, and gender is a social construct?

          [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

          It didn't, that's not the point. What is happening now is its logical progression.

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

          I see no logic in this progression. No connection to any specific version of Protestantism. This madness inevitable happens to all civilizations. Even if you try to design countermeasures, your elites will just become corrupt and ignore them.

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          It's Jew logic, not real logic, but it's "logical" anyway. What, you thought these things happened "naturally" without "guidance"???

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

          The Protestantism of Martin Luther and the various early modern Protestant theologians laid the groundwork upon which the Western conception of liberalism developed, even if the ideas exposed are radically different.

          Liberalism, or classical liberalism to distinguish it from modern liberalism, owes its formulation to Thomas Hobbes (1588-1679) and John Locke (1632-1704). While they were not theologians like Martin Luther (1483-1546) and Jean Calvin (1509-1564), the ideas expounded by Hobbes and Locke cannot be dissociated from the development of Protestant thought in the post-Reformation Europe. Examined for its moral and spiritual implications, liberalism can indeed be regarded as a natural outgrowth of that individualistic outlook on life that the Protestant Reformation embraced and encouraged. As such, the value system liberalism promotes overlaps with the Protestant value system, which has played an important role in the modernization of the Western world.

          http://www.theiiis.org/protestantism-and-classical-liberalism/

          And before you say classical liberalism is not related to modern liberalism, classical liberalism was a development of egalitarianism and individualism and ideologies such as socialism, left-liberalism and anarchism are just derivations from the ideas originally exposed by classical liberals.

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

          And before you say classical liberalism is not related to modern liberalism, classical liberalism was a development of egalitarianism and individualism and ideologies such as socialism, left-liberalism and anarchism are just derivations from the ideas originally exposed by classical liberals.

          Is there a single liberty modern liberals don't want to take away? They are just socialists playing with names. Socialism is an ancient disease, it can corrupt all ideologies. The roots of socialism hide within the origin of our mind, not in some historical figures and events. The solution to socialism, is to take control over our biology, not a different type of socialism.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

          How do you define and what do you consider as "liberty"? And what exactly are you referring to when you say "socialism"?

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

          How do you define and what do you consider as "liberty"?

          A right to make decisions. Classical liberalism says people should be able to do what they want when they don't infringe on others. Modern liberalism says all decisions need an approval from our betters.

          And what exactly are you referring to when you say "socialism"?

          All types of collectivism. National, international, doesn't matter. They all end up attacking real citizens in the name of imaginary entities.

          [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

          A right to make decisions. Classical liberalism says people should be able to do what they want when they don't infringe on others.

          And you cannot see how that devolved into the more decadent modern liberalism?

          All types of collectivism

          Well, in that case I would disagree that it is a disease. "Collectivism" is the natural state of things, humans are social creatures and seek to interact in plural groups. This ranges from the family, to the tribe, to the village and whatever higher form of grouping. Individualism is a decadence that arises in the comfort formed from "collectivism", when group identity ensures security than an individual may concentrate inwards. And the idea of the "NAP" and voluntaryism for infringement are arbitrary, effects can be more than direct attempts to interfere.

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

          Well, in that case I would disagree that it is a disease. "Collectivism" is the natural state of things, humans are social creatures and seek to interact in plural groups. This ranges from the family, to the tribe, to the village and whatever higher form of grouping. Individualism is a decadence that arises in the comfort formed from "collectivism", when group identity ensures security than an individual may concentrate inwards. And the idea of the "NAP" and voluntaryism for infringement are arbitrary, effects can be more than direct attempts to interfere.

          The core idea behind individualism is the acceptance of impermanence. Individualism only became possible thanks to Islam, when repeated waves of philosopher refugees produced an unnatural concentration of knowledge within the West.

          It doesn't tell people to avoid groups, it only aims to make this process natural. If your group has become corrupted, you should be able to leave, they shouldn't be able to stop you. If your nature has changed, you should be able to change your group as well. Don't search for an omniscient leader to decide what groups are good or bad, for this leader, too, will be corrupted. Everything keeps changing.

          Individualism accepts that all social structures will be corrupted, thus it doesn't rely on permanent structures. Every organization should be replaceable, every transaction should be voluntarily. And when its time has come, it should be allowed to disappear painlessly.

          Under individualism, the only institutions the state should control, are army and police. Both should be controlled by replaceable individuals with brains (compassion, reason), not by corruptible brainless laws. Police should be decentralized and citizens should have the ability to replace their sheriff when necessary.

          Collectivists keep trying to catch ever-changing world with a set of static laws. And when the world changes again, their society is doomed to collapse. Post-modernists aren't an exception. Despite their liberal handling of knowledge, their structures are as rigid as ever.

          And you cannot see how that devolved into the more decadent modern liberalism?

          No, can't say I do. They went from maximum freedom to no freedom. There's no development, just socialists in liberal skins.

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          Our brain uses pain and pleasure to shape itself. When the available sources of pain and pleasure are unsystematic and divorced from nature, the result is the randomization of morality. When the morality is random, the collapse of civilization becomes inevitable.