Elon Musk displacing parasite Jeff Bezos as the world's richest man makes me happy

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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

No one has gone to the moon since 1969. Even assuming the official story is true(which I don't believe), it would mean no one has gone to the moon in 51 years. Wouldn't it be more worthwhile to revisit the moon with more advanced scanning technology? Science has advanced greatly in the last 50 years. Surely, the data gathered would give great insights into prospects for a lunar base, space mining and astrobiology?

Its certainly more feasible than sending a manned mission to Mars which is vastly more distant.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Oh good God, you're one of those?

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I find it unfathomable that no other country has ever gone to the moon in 50 years despite vast development in technology. Hell, even the US never went back. Why would it be a one off effort? Why not go repeatedly to perform better scans, gain more samples and set up a lunar base?

Plus, how did NASA "lose" telemetry data from the mission? Do they store it in some random garage? How does a billion dollar government agency lose the data on what is perhaps the most momentous event in the history of science?

NASA in fact claims that it has ''lost'' the technology to go to space? How do you lose technology from 1969 to 2020 when there's been a revolution in computer technology, transistors, engines and material science? It should be a breeze to go to the moon now compared to 1969.

Why is China, the world leader in engineering only attempting to send drones to mars but not a manned mission to the moon? Same with Russia.

The reason imo is the same as to why stealth combat drones are far cheaper than 4th generation fighters. The complex life support systems and g-tolerances required to keep a crew alive is too big a burden.

The US might have a ''been there done that '' attitude to moon landing, but what about the other great powers who are hungry for clout and to match the US in prestige?

Don't get me wrong. I think humans have been to space, primarily to set satellites and other research related stuff, but I don't think they've gone to the moon. The Van Allen belt is also another serious obstacle.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://youtu.be/-lh1xY4A6Xc

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Count me in as a moon landing skeptic as well.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://youtu.be/-lh1xY4A6Xc

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Finally, someone sensible

[–]SoylentCapitalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Science has advanced greatly in the last 50 years. Surely, the data gathered would give great insights into prospects for a lunar base, space mining and astrobiology?

If we have the technology to make space mining profitable, it would no doubt be a better option to go to the Moon. It just isn't worth it from what I've read due to the high costs of shipping anything to and from Earth.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well you're right and wrong. The costs of shipping would be great but the rewards are enormous. A single asteriod of 1 mile diameter has more iron ore than what was mined in the entirety of earth in 2005. Space mining will have to be developed eventually to sustain industrial civilization due to the coming shortage of rare earth metals. It won't be long before the planet runs out of it as population keeps growing and standards of living sharply spike across the globe.

[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No one has gone to the moon since 1969.

Well, the last landing on the Moon was by Apollo 17 in December 1972. The Soviets had their own plans to send cosmonauts to the moon, but these were cancelled due to the unreliability of their launch platforms.

Wouldn't it be more worthwhile to revisit the moon with more advanced scanning technology?

Lunar rovers are fine for collecting data, but the the problem is, they don't inspire people. The human element is missing. Thats why everyone remembers the Apollo missions, and nobody remembers all the unmanned missions to the Moon.