Will Nick and the Groypers have any success with their new escapade?

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With Fuentes and the AmNats seemingly playing a big part in the Stop The Steal protests/Destroy the GOP movement and getting more coverage, do you think they might have some rise to significance? Do you think they'll be able to gain some influence and convert the Trump base?

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

They might be successful in what they're trying to do but what they're trying to do is not convert people to our cause, they're trying to get a slice of the pie.

What we'll see is the GOP gain a psuedo-populist wing, Trump was the beginning of it and these people will continue the legacy and be the 'right wing of the GOP' like there is a left wing of the Dems in like Bernie bros and the Squad and shit like that. They're just going to be absorbed into the system and guys like Nick will be used to appeal to young people for GOP voters in the future which is what he's already been doing anyway.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yup. Many forget but Nick was against Trump in 2015 during the primaries. He was not a true conservative and he endorsed Ted Cruz. Even before that, he endorsed Mitt Romney. A classic conman

[–]DisgustResponse 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People change. How many of us were leftists or libertarians once?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's the same old repeatable pattern similar to sine function.

  1. 4 years before election - "Fuck the GOP cucks!"

  2. 2 years before election - "Hey, GOP is not as bad as demonrats yknow"

  3. Days before election - "Go GOP!!"

  4. go to step 1.

As Markimus said, they just want their slice, and they might as well suceed in doing that, they might get their edgier Ben Shapiro complementary outlets, but that's as far as it goes, that is as far as they want to go.

[–]DisgustResponse 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fuentes is a real force-of-personality. Nobody else on the right even comes close. Wouldn't be above ZOG to whack him.

[–]Wrangel 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The efforts are important because they undermine the system. The US government isn't going to be reformed, the only solution is that the US government goes through something similar to what happened to the Soviet union. The US is soon going to have a senile president who isn't very popular with a vice president who barely got any votes in the primary and they inherit a budget deficit from hell, an economic depression, a pandemic and a tradewar with China. The US is more divided than ever, convincing millions of people that the president is illegitimate is a good accelerate.

[–]MATKINS 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are three things I can envision with Nick Fuentes, going forward.

  1. He's going to get absorbed into the GOP fold as another Ann Coulter type figure. Racial / anti-Israel dogwhistles, but only on a superficial level

Milo has outright admitted he wants AF to be subverted into another gay civnat movement that whines about Muslims and never mentions Jews, race or Israel.

  1. His movement is going to implode within the next two years and you'll pretty much never hear from any of them ever again. It could be anything. Massive blackpilling after StopTheSteal fails, some dumb young AF guy getting taken in by fedposts to pull a Brenton Tarrant move, etc.

  2. Nick Fuentes will become wiser with age and become a "wignat", lol........ if his intellectual/political journey is honest, that's the trajectory. James Allsup saw the writing on the wall with "American Nationalism" and opted out. Of course the problem is that it's a very comfortable grift for Fuentes. He's never going to make this kind of money again.

[–]Courbeaux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Groypers? You mean the people who care more about stopping weed legalization than preserving the White race?