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[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The great anti-racist guru Ibram Kendi wrote this about the two sides in the election: “It is hard to imagine the enslaver and the enslaved being together in any elemental sense. . . .” Note the gentle blacks mourning George Floyd on the left and the crazed white supremacists on the right. Then he adds, “There’s no fighting for the soul of America. There’s no uniting the souls of America. There is only fighting off the other soul of America.” Whites are the soul that has to be fought off.

Jameelah Nasheed, who writes for Teen Vogue has a different view. “This election has proven that America doesn’t have a soul; it has Black people. We don’t deserve the weight of this nation and its moral failings, and this nation doesn’t deserve our grace.” (you can say that again.) White America has no soul, but black people will wash away our sins and save us through their grace.

Again, this isn’t a political disagreement. It’s about race.

Ta-Nehisi Coates, also thinks whites are hopeless. He says we believe in a demon religion called white supremacy, and adds, “I would like to tell you that such a day approaches when the people who believe themselves to be white renounce this demon religion and begin to think of themselves as human. But I can see no real promise of such a day.”

[–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

Yawn, the usual racist crap. Much of Antifa is white. The real divide is cultural. Yes, this isn't the alt-right position, but this sub is called "debatealtright" after all.

[–]deAccount 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

More accurately, it’s both. Us (not including you I presume) non self-hating whites versus everyone else (white masochists and all other races of people) who want for us to die.

[–]fschmidt 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you want to help the white race, marry a white and have many children. If you want to win the culture war, ally with everyone who shares your values regardless of race. Confuse these issues and you will fail.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, and? But mass immigration, i.e. cooperate while they compete (Sucker's Payoff), is a losing strategy.

[–]weaselWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. “One struggle” is a joke.

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    [–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    True, most blacks are useless. But if a few blacks are good then there is no reason to reject them.

    [–]EuropeanAwakening14 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Those black people are needed by their black communities. Whites don't need them. They can contribute much more to black communities. You're also admitting that it would be bad to force these blacks to live with average blacks. You're implicitly admitting that race matters.

    [–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    There are plenty of reasons to segregate from them. We don't wish Blacks ill we just think we shouldn't mix.

    [–]SoylentCapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    There's about 439,000 blacks with 120 IQ or higher in the African-American population to be exact. That being the top 1% of the black population. Many, if not most of these people probably even own homes and contribute towards a net positive in the economy. I say we get rid of most of the worst but keep the ones who contribute that are already here and built lives.

    [–]FoxySDTWhite Nationalist 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Majority of those 439,000 blacks are democrats and even more so are black racial nationalists who want to redistribute resources and political power away from whites and use some oppression narrative they believe in as justification for that. There is no reason why we would want these people in our country.

    All this "they will contribute to the economy" is a lolbert talking point that is irrelevant to us. And it's not even true in the long run because kids of those 120 IQ blacks will be about <100 IQ and in few generations we will be back where we started.

    [–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    kids of those 120 IQ blacks will be about <100 IQ and in few generations we will be back where we started.

    Are you sure that's how that works? If all intelligent ~120 IQ black generations of the 1% of the population eventually become average, why do we still have the intelligent blacks today? Their average IQ is not decreasing.

    "they will contribute to the economy" is a lolbert talking point that is irrelevant to us.

    I've seen posts here about the net negative blacks cause as a reason to advocate for separation. Which is actually a good argument for getting rid of those in that community who cause the net negative. The alt-right does care about the economy, but seemingly only when it's a negative/helpful and can be used to support other goals.

    Also, my point about the economy and them owning homes is more of a moral argument. If they're not causing harm to society and whites, why strip them from their homes on a continent whites brought them to and aren't even native here themselves? These few blacks being intelligent and having jobs that benefit society is just a bonus.

    [–]FoxySDTWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Are you sure that's how that works? If all intelligent ~120 IQ black generations of the 1% of the population eventually become average, why do we still have the intelligent blacks today? Their average IQ is not decreasing.

    That's not what I meant. What I am talking about is regression to the mean. An exceptionally high IQ couple will have kids with IQ higher than average but not as high as them. On the other hand, very low IQ people will have kids that are still quite dumb but not as much as them. Hence, they will be converging to the mean. This is true for IQ, height and pretty much any other trait.

    I've seen posts here about the net negative blacks cause as a reason to advocate for separation. Which is actually a good argument for getting rid of those in that community who cause the net negative. The alt-right does care about the economy, but seemingly only when it's a negative/helpful and can be used to support other goals.

    It is one of the arguments yes but it was never the only one or the main one. The main goal was always a homogeneous white country free from anyone else. Not high IQ multiracial country with high GDP. Otherwise alt-right would all for importing Asians and jews.

    Also, my point about the economy and them owning homes is more of a moral argument. If they're not causing harm to society and whites, why strip them from their homes on a continent whites brought them to and aren't even native here themselves?

    Problem is that this is all theoretical. In real life they would most certainly cause us a harm. That aside though, nobody wants them "strip of their homes" or deport them. We want partition of US into separate ethnostates so each race could govern itself.

    [–]SoylentCapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    What I am talking about is regression to the mean.

    If you practice eugenics you aren't doomed to always go back to the previous average IQ of the starting population. Which is essentially what isolating the smart blacks is doing.

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      [–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Jews abusing the system is why America is now failing as a nation. America was a nation that became the strongest on earth and still is militarily.

      [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I say we get rid of most of the worst but keep the ones who contribute that are already here and built lives.

      If this was the price I had to pay for a genuine ethnostate with clear cut laws to close borders, encourage white natalism and allow true freedom of association and speech I'd support it but I doubt white nationalist will ever really get into a position where they can seriously discuss terms like this with the globalists. Globalists will always want to totally crush us and that means we have the moral and divine right to defends ourselves from such tyrants. Peaceful balkanization is not looking realistic when dealing with Anglo/Jewish high finance satanic fanatics.

      [–]EuropeanAwakening14 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Yawn. One of Antifa's ideological axioms is that White society must be torn down in order to equalize non Whites and Whites. Just because most of Antifa are White does not mean it isn't a racial issue.

      Can you tell me where culture comes from, by the way? The cultural values you think we should share, where did they come from?

      You're fundamentally confused about why race matters. Race doesn't matter because Antifa hates White people. Race matters because there are meaningful genetic differences between races in terms of intelligence, brain size, personality, psycopathy, time preference, empathy, etc. which lead to cultural differences. It doesn't matter that Antifa is mostly White.

      [–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      The real divide is cultural. Much of Antifa is white.

      What do Antifa believe? What do they stand for? AFAIK it's merely anti-racism. Please, correct me.

      [–]Nasser 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Ok Salos.