Tribalism is an inferior human condition that only leads to chaos and misery.

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[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Seems to have worked for every single civilization that has ever existed on the face of the Earth quite well. Name one that wasn't ethnocentric or downright chauvanistic?

Also pursuit of 'universal truth' and ethnocentrism are not mutually exclusive. You sound like someone who just read 'Babies First Book About Human History' and regurgitated its ideas.

[–]Zoomer1212[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm not talking about chauvinism on a general sense, but about explicit racialism and ethnocentrism. Rome was very far from being these things, it was culturally chauvinistic yes, but definitely not an ethnically based society.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm not talking about chauvinism on a general sense, but about explicit racialism and ethnocentrism. Rome was very far from being these things,

That's the stupidest fucking thing I've heard today. Well done.

[–]Zoomer1212[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Care to explain?

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why do I have to explain simple facts to you? Read some bloody Tacitus. Man had explicit and repeated things to say -- positive and negative -- about the innate qualites of different ancestral peoples. Roman cultural chauvanism for him was merely the logical extension of Roman ethnocentrism.

Also was no fan of the Jews and his description of their qualities states that they're racial. I don't know what fantasy books you've been reading but in no way were the Romans unaware of the different qualities certain groups posess.