Its a strange thing, watching America die

submitted by TheJamesRocket from self.debatealtright

The country that triumphed in two world wars and in the space race is now clearly falling apart. Its decline was already evident for years, but watching it actually collapse is just surreal. More and more insane things happen every day, and I have less and less to say. I feel like my power of speech, to meaningfully express what is happening, has been completely lost. The way that the public mutely accepted the coronavirus hoax, and then dumbly accepted the summer riots, was just beyond belief. It was the greatest act of surrender since millions of muslim were allowed to march into Europe during the 'refugee crisis' of 2015.

I watched the public spiral ever deeper into their hysteria over the coronavirus, as the Deep State planned for permanent lockdowns. To kill what remained of our economy, and reduce us to paupers reliant on government handouts. And now, we have once again been reduced to passive spectators with the rigged elections. The globalists stole it plain as day, and crow about their victory. Trump sits by impassively on the sidelines and fritters away his limited time, and his massive army of supporters dope themselves into a stupor with copium. I have no words to describe this.

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[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The country that triumphed in two world wars

Give me a break. The Europeans actually fought those wars. The US acted as a parasite by exploiting the continent when it was weak. Not to mention the fact that they were on the side of our enemies both fucking times.

and in the space race

Brought to you by NAZI scientists!

dumbly accepted the summer riots

They didn't really. It's one of the reasons why Biden didn't win in a landslide.

It was the greatest act of surrender since millions of muslim were allowed to march into Europe during the 'refugee crisis' of 2015.

That actually created the biggest nativist backlash we've seen for decades. The Eurocrats now know they can't pull that off again.

Trump sits by impassively on the sidelines and fritters away his limited time, and his massive army of supporters dope themselves into a stupor with copium.

We'll see.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You're not watching America die, you're watching it morph into something new. A technocratic dystopia were a small Jewish elite lords over a vast favela of brainwashed debt slaves. They won't let it collapse as America is the source of their wealth and military might.

America is becoming a large torture facility for white people. Whites will be legally discriminated, violence and crime against them will be de facto legal, and their children will be made into trannies or abused by sodomites, resisting it will be a hate crime. A cadre of white leftist and Asia technocrats will run the system, while the Jews set the direction and give the orders.

At this point, whites should either struggle for secession and freedom or just leave the US. In the past, this nightmarish freak show would've been invaded and destroyed by some healthier power. Nukes prevent such a cleansing act. It will have to come from within

[–]antireddit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You dont seem to understand how serious Americas economic problems are becoming. The federal government is 30 TRILLION dollars in debt and counting, Americans personal debt is just as bad as well. All this while still in the midst of an economy destroying pandemic we are not reacting well too.

What little is left of our manufacturing base is steadily eroding as well, while our middle class tax base continues to evaporate and the gap between rich and poor only increases as we continually import massive numbers of non english speaking unskilled dirt poor people from the third world. Basically the least intelligent and successful people the world has to offer.

In addition to this, our ruling Jewish elite have all but declared war against the most law abiding, intelligent and productive members of our society. Whites. While promoting the least productive and most anti social segments of society. All because of their spiraling ethnic paranoia and hatred.

None of this is sustainable. I could go on and on about ways in which the US system is digging its hole deeper. There's just no way any of this is sustainable without a collapse. The national debt alone is terminal. You cant have a great reset because China would never agree to forgive this debt. The Soviet Union collapsed almost instantly despite far less serious systemic problems. The US corpse is kept on life support by international finance but at some point this Jewish ponzi scheme will collapse.

[–]insta 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Who cares about the economic viability of a country that hates you.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

America is becoming a large torture facility for white people

lol. That about sums it up. Jews are really overplaying their hand though, once again. There are zillions of people calling bullshit even if they are banned from mass communication.

[–]TheJamesRocket[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I have essentially given up on talking with anyone who isn't already red pilled. Theres no point. The depths of human stupidity is despair inducing. People are so trapped in a false paradigm that virtually everything they believe is wrong. They are literally drowning in a sea of lies, and yet when I offer them a raft of truth to hang onto, they spit at me.

The old ways of societal regulation (marriage, familys, religion, careers, law and order) have been destroyed, and there is nothing to replace them. The children growing up now -the Zoomers- are uncultured and feral. They have no meaningful connection to the culture of their ancestors. They are mindless robots who will unhesitatingly accept the new world order and its dictates. I fear that all is lost.

''Any sufficiently advanced wisdom is indistinguishable from madness.'' -Me

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have essentially given up on talking with anyone who isn't already red pilled.

Same. I genuinely love talking to people and debating -- in fact it's one of my favourtie things to do -- and even a couple of years ago I could have good discussions with people including just strangers at a party. It seems just personally that though my positions have barely changed -- if anything the only change is a drift leftward on economic issues -- the people I meet are unrecognisable and unreachable at this point.

Who knows maybe I'm just in a bad mood but it seems to me the weather has shifted with the general public and something uglier has replaced the previous climate.

[–]KangShaka 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

We live in a world where The Lion King and not masturbating are considered examples of 'fascism'. It was the 1994 version of that film that they hilariously called fascist propaganda. This shit was already going on back then.

But what has changed is that it became a whole lot more prolific. It seems to be an intergenerational thing. I'd say that each generation since Hobbes has been moving in this socially Leftward direction, and we're now hitting a sort of "wall" where it's hard to fathom just how we could move socially Leftward outside of simply legalizing a few remaining things.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It was the 1994 version of that film that they hilariously called fascist propaganda. This shit was already going on back then.

They're not completely wrong here. It's more about aristocracy and monarchism, but Scar is certainly a Leninist.

[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Mufasa = old European order, Simba (early stage) = demoralized individuals and normies, Scar = elites/jews, Rafiki = that old but wise person who is aware of everything, Timon and pumbaa = blue pilled individuals, The lionesses of the pack = women of our lands, Hyenas = third world hordes, Simba (later on) = awakened European spirit ("Remember who you are, Simba."), The kingdom under Mufasa = how our lands used to be, The kingdom under Scar = modern world, The land where simba ran to and grew up = white flight, The land where hyenas live = third world.

It all makes sense.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd say that each generation since Hobbes has been moving in this socially Leftward direction

That's not really true.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's surreal. So many mixed emotions. On one hand I'm happy. We can't patch up the old system. It was terminal and dissidents will get a very real chance to rise up in the power vacuum that results from the chaos of collapse. On the other hand, holy shit, the founders were spot on that if you lose the free speech principle and lose the right to issue currency the republic is dead in the water. Central banking and the tech oligarchs absolutely brought this country to its knees. I don't think I've ever seen a more gaslit and dis informed, mis informed, sickly populace as I see now. Soon this collective confusion will ignite into collective hysteria and most likely ultra violence. Compounding the hysteria will be the realization that only a handful of people are truly independent from the system. We've all been covertly conditioned into indoor cats and it will become very obvious very soon. I dearly hope everyone has been making strong local connections and preparing themselves. I fear the oligarchs are planning a mass culling of the livestock. I have zero faith in all this Q shit. The only good thing Q has done is permanently de-yoked god fearing whites from the scam that is 'conservativism/republicanism'. We need these folks softened up and demoralized. The pills will go down easier that way.

[–]TheJamesRocket[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It was terminal and dissidents will get a very real chance to rise up in the power vacuum that results from the chaos of collapse.

If there is a societal collapse, any reorganisation and rebuilding will have to begin at the community level. That is the only way that the rot can be uprooted. There is a chance for a new brand of politics to emerge in this situation. It will be based on the recognition that there must be firms rules and responsibilitys for all. Tolerance for bullshit ideas must be much reduced.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If there is a societal collapse, any reorganisation and rebuilding will have to begin at the community level.

Agreed. Say what you will about Owen Benjamin but his 'bear clan' model is ideal. I wish more dissidents would follow his leads. Know your community, have concentric layers of support, create very close friendship networks and make it impossible for you or your network of white friends to be 'canceled' by the left. It also helps to have a homestead or at least a garden and basic supplies. Anti fragility is the key. Even if the collapse never comes you will weather career changes and economic instability better if you own property and have some ability to go semi off grid if needed. It gives you that 'fuck you' mentality that helps you do better in the anti male, anti white, anti christian working world.

[–]fschmidt 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

God help you, you have a brain. Of course the decline of Rome was similar (but slower). Please check out my subreddit:

https://old.reddit.com/r/nonmorons/

[–]meatball4u 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

"Hoax" gets thrown around a lot for the coronavirus. What makes you believe it's a hoax?

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I do believe it's WAY overblown and in that sense it is a hoax. The IFR (chances of dying per infection) is perhaps twice the typical flu season. Big fucking deal. That is NOT worth shutting down the country, it's just wealth consolidation, mass surveillance, MANDATORY vaccines, etc.

[–]meatball4u 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I agree the IFR is not so scary, but the post-COVID syndrome that is affecting about 1 out of every 5 people is worrying. These people are still having symptoms many months after their acute infection, and are even having trouble with cognitive function that keeps them from working. Same happened with the first SARS outbreak. There could be a significant number of disabled people as a result. If you've never heard of Myalgic Encephalomylitis / Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, it can occur after infections and wreck people for decades. There will probably be a big increase in this condition after the surveys are done. We don't need to shut the country down, but if there was better testing and contact tracing there would be a lot less risk. But Trump doesn't like testing because it makes the numbers look worse for him. Very vain. Could still keep the economy going while testing and preventing

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting. But I think the bigger question which our "leaders" seem suspiciously incurious about is the source of the virus. If this was indeed a bioweapon then all these long term effects could actually be the objective of any gain-of-function sequence changes, not actually killing people. As they say in combat you're better off disabling the enemy than killing them because disabled people cost more.

[–]antireddit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We may be massively overreacting and wrecking our economy over Covid 19, with a hostile elite and hysterical click bait happy media taking full advantage of the situation and making it worse, but its pretty clear at this point the virus itself is not a "hoax". As if a hoax virus could be concocted that fools the entire worldwide scientific and medical community across competing nations and ideologies.

We know pretty much what covid is at this point. A coronavirus that spreads a little easier than the flu, is significantly deadlier, and leaves behind a host of long term health effects in many victims that the flu does not. No its not the apocalyptic disease some people suggested early on. The death rate is far lower and the very young seem largely immune from its serious health effects, but it's far from being a hoax and anyone who claims it is at this point is scientifically illiterate.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Trump flat out lost, no one stole it.

[–]antireddit 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I disagree. The media and tech oligarchs stole it. He who controls the media controls America, and they clearly desperately wanted Trump gone. That he did so well despite their best efforts and his incredibly unappealing personaity and incompetence is a testament to how much worse their preferred alternative is and how sick people are of it.

The extent to which outright election fraud occurred isnt really clear, but again even if it wasnt the deciding factor, the media was.

[–]asterias 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Shouldn't that be an opportunity for Americans to contemplate what went wrong instead of glorifying the past which led them here?

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Washington was surely right about foreign influence though.