Trump Supporters being harassed at rally in DC.

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[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Rationalize him hitting people first however you want.

ANTIFA has openly declared they want to 'punch' maga people and they surrounded him. He's also clearly walking away from the crowd as they follow him down the street. These people clearly identified themselves in antifa garb. He had the legal and moral right to do a LOT more to them. So are you telling me that if a Jew was surrounded and followed by 20 beefy brown shirt national socialists that just left a rally where they declared they wanted to punch Jews (and had a sign that said 'punch jews') the Jew is being aggressive by preemptively defending himself?

[obviously I don't believe national socialists were thugs but I'm just trying to make a point and using the evil 'nazi' trope is the only way to get through to thick headed leftists like yourself]

[–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There was police present in the video he could've went towards instead (Go to 53 seconds).

But the Jew in your hypothetical shouldn't do something as idiotic as to run into the crowd of national socialists. This would've also worked out much better in favor of the right if the entire video showed Antifa/BLM initiating the physical violence. Instead we see multiple Trump supporters at the 43 second mark ganging up on a guy with a megaphone.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

But the Jew in your hypothetical shouldn't do something as idiotic as to run into the crowd of national socialists.

You know there was a MAGA rally in DC right? These people didn't show up to chase Antifa. They are going to a political event. Antifa showed up to chase trump supporters as they transitioned from their hotel to the rally. How do you not know this?

if the entire video showed Antifa/BLM initiating the physical violence.

There are hundreds of videos emerging (many on the same street and same time) of antifa doing just that. Following, circling, cursing, Stealing flags, throwing water, taking flags poles and turning them into weapons, assault older folks, etc. I've linked these videos on my post. I can't force you to watch them. I'm sure you probably have and you're just trying to win a debate on bad faith argument (a pattern you've shown very clearly and a pattern that will soon get you banned). I will let readers decide.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are hundreds of videos emerging (many on the same street and same time) of antifa doing just that.

Sure, and they are wrong for doing so. But this isn't in the incident we are discussing.

I've linked these videos on my post. I can't force you to watch them. I'm sure you probably have and you're just trying to win a debate on bad faith argument

I'll watch the others, but to be honest this bad faith accusation/rule seems like a catch all to get rid of people with opposing viewpoints (in a community supposed to be about debate) based on baseless or weak claims considering you say stuff like:

Of course I don't expect good faith from you on this topic. I've seen your post history.

Without mentioning any examples of what you consider "bad faith".