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[–]EinmuetigeErhebung 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'd say the liberals are beginning to see that Islam is incompatible with their own globalist project, that is why Macron is behaving in a seemingly based manner. The French left is not undergoing some sudden nationalist awakening, but rather realizing that Islamism is also an universalist project which is itself competing with their ultra materialistic vision for the future of humanity. That they didn't see this before is a testament to their stupidity, but I honestly don't know if it will even matter that much.

I think liberals will now try to appropriate the banner of the "fight against religious extremism" to expand their power even more. To them, all traditionalism is bad, be it western or islamic. Islamism today is much weaker than liberalism and leftism are. Islam is declining even in many Muslim countries, in Europe most second generation migrants are barely muslim at all. Rampant degeneracy is a much bigger problem in Europe than Islam is (although ideally most muslims should definitely be kicked out or forcibly converted, the problem is, converted to what? Europe's moral foundations have completely collapsed).

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

that is why Macron is behaving in a seemingly based manner.

No, it's to prevent Le Pen from increasing her support. It will fail.

[–]arainynightinskyrim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sadly you might be right, I too think that there's a chance that he's just barking to steal votes from LePen but I hope that the population doesn't fall for it again.

[–]AFutureConcern 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

At some point actions end up matching the rhetoric, much as "conservatives" parroting lines about diversity and equality actually enact those things in policy - even if you're just lying, the people who join your party are attracted to the party line, so the next generation will have far more true believers. So centrists having to parrot right-wing talking points to curry favor can only be good for us.

[–]arainynightinskyrim[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're probably right, by using our talking points they are uncounciously moving the overton window in our direction, they're playing our game without even realizing it.