Whites seem to idealize black entertainers of the past

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Sure this isn’t the most pressing issue but I’ve always noticed it. Whites, even including more traditional whites, seem to have an idealized view of black entertainers of the past. Whites hated Muhammad Ali, but now boomer whites think back fondly of him while bashing a fighter like Floyd Mayweather. Whites will bash the rap music of today, and glorify the “golden age” of rap in the early 90s.

What do you make of this tendency?

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Muhammad Ali was a king and 80s-2010 rap had a lot of good stuff. The idea you have to hate blacks and/or not appreciate athletes and music from them is retarded larp by people who view our racial struggle as a social-cultural club rather than a political struggle.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Muhammad ali was anti white though. I think he literally called white people his enemy once.

I know im late but this is important to mention

[–]marc_gee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Don't you think it is partly social-cultural? The culture influences the thoughts of our people.

[–]Minedwe 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"Partly" being the operative term. We should 100% reject degeneracy and dangerous cultural ideas, but things like rap are on their own rather harmless. Yes they glorify violence and crime, but that only has great impact if society allows those fantasies/promotions to manifest, as modern society does. Plenty of country music talks of murder or crime, but you didn't see organized gangs of country boys wantonly murdering passers by (or, at least not due to country music).

People get really weird and esoteric ideas about the movement. This is probably down to philosophy, but one must remember that with a movement so diverse of thought and approach as the Third Position and indeed the alt-right, a certain level of compromise and pragmatism is needed and needless zealotry is harmful (This is not to say that extreme zealotry isn't necessary or warranted in some cases, though).

Also, I think it's worth noting that rap in the 90's had plenty of Whites like House of Pain and others.

[–]marc_gee 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's not the content of the culture that matters so much, it's the fact that it promotes and glorifies non-whites and diversity to naive young white people. It makes whites accept and defend diversity, and see it as something good. That has a huge affect on white people's racial consciousness. Thus MTV has brainwashed whites into accepting their erasure more than almost anything.

[–]Minedwe 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not the content of the culture that matters so much, it's the fact that it promotes and glorifies non-whites and diversity to naive young white people

Indeed, I was simply offering an example. I'm not a big fan of rap music either.

Thus MTV has brainwashed whites into accepting their erasure more than almost anything.

I don't think their effect is THAT momentous, but they definitely played a role, especially in millennials who were alive during it's most famous point in the 90s. Today's singers aren't even involved with MTV that much as far as I'm aware, and they've had a much worse impact on White culture than the music of the 90s did.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was referring to how people view our thing. Most people view our thing in the same way as they view Kpop fandom, liking sportsball or some other kind of hobby.

We need to get serious, it's not about making friends and lulz, it's not about learning everything you can about humanbiodiversity. It's about taking power to liberate our people from genocide. Imagine the absurdity of Palestinians acting the way we do whilst they're being bombed daily by jews. This is exactly what we're doing, we're fiddling whilst Rome is burning.

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    [–]SoylentCapitalist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    A lot of rap is actually truthful, they do sell drugs, use drugs, fuck whores or get into fights.

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      [–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Lol. It's awful but people like hearing about it for some reason.

      [–]sylla94 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      degeneracy is appealing. sacrificing ones own or societies long term health and prosperity for short term pleasure is very tempting

      [–]EuropeanAwakening 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Everything of the past is idolized compared to today.

      [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Whites hated Muhammad Ali

      Did they?

      Whites will bash the rap music of today, and glorify the “golden age” of rap in the early 90s.

      Survivorship bias. The garbage of yesteryear has been forgotten.

      [–]SoylentCapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I think it isn't a big deal because from what I was told a while back even the far-right can enjoy stuff like jazz and contributions from other races without sacrificing any of their values like wanting to live separately. I've noticed the same thing though and was surprised to find out they enjoyed some black music.

      [–]arainynightinskyrim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      To grow our subs try to crosspost on

      https://ruqqus.com/+DebateTheDissidentRight?sort=new