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[–]weaselWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

That’s a bold claim. I haven’t seen it in a while, what exactly makes it so subversive?

[–]WaltzRoommate 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I haven't seen it in a while, but here's my memory.

First, let's look at the fundamental premise. You have a guy who is inferior to the blacks around him in almost every single way. He's a reject, he loses fights, he got cucked by one of them and stayed with the girl afterwards, he gets stage fright, he lives with his mom in a trailer, his friends are losers, etc. The man's one saving grace is that unknown to the characters in the film, he is Eminem. The film's premise is that any ordinary or even less-than-eminem-but-still-extraordinary white would have been an absolute loser and the audience picks up on that message. It creates dread in a white audience.

Second, let's look at the fundamental message. The fundamental message of the film is that whites do not face anti-white sentiment, but rich people face anti-rich sentiment and whites are privileged enough to frequently see that, and that if white people give up their privilege then they can bond with blacks. This is demonstrated in Eminem's final "victory", where he defeats a black rapper by asserting that he is just as poor and deadbeaten as them. The message to the audience is that whites can be accepted only after giving up all signs of success and that blacks never held anti-white sentiment to begin with.

Third, let's look at the quick subversive things that were thrown in without any real follow-through. The film shows Eminem impressing a girl by defending a homosexual. The film shames a strong man by suggesting that he's on steroids. The praise for weakness is a psyop that's not talked about often. Third Eminem literally walks in on his girlfriend interracially cucking him and stays with her. Considering Eminem's role-model or idol-tier status, this is a normative statement of what boys should do and be okay with.

Fourth, let's look at shit just thrown randomly in there. Cheddar is a white person with absolutely no redeeming qualities. He serves no purpose in the plot. He only exists to get rejected by black girls, say stupid shit for no reason, and accidentally shoot himself. He only exists as a "white man dumb" statement and nothing else. Contrarily, they present some black-panther tier guy as the peak of black intellectualism.

This is all just from memory. I'm sure dozens more things would pop out at me if I rewatched it. That's what I remember from when I watched it years ago.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

I disagree. I think it's a white superiority movie. 1 white guy in a black environment and he outcompetes all of them in their own environment. Everyone arounds him knows he is better and he has to move on, because ultimately he doesn't belong on the bottom with the rest of the crew.

[–]WaltzRoommate 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Definitely not.

The audience doesn't see it as just being the white guy being best. In fact, most whites in that movie are terrible. They see it as being Eminem succeeding not due to being white, but being Eminem. Watch the film and not just my description. It's palpably and deliberately anti-white.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I've watched it and its one of my favorite movies growing up. I always saw it as a white guy succeeding in a harsh environment against all odds. Even in the rap industry, whites are number 1.

But I can see your perspective too.

[–]WaltzRoommate 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah but do you actually believe in the retard tier interpretation you offered?

Do you sincerely believe that 8 Mile was an actual attempt by a Jewish director at creating some klux tier wignat film that happens to be pro gay and feature interracial cucking?

What I posted was a relatively thorough analysis, while you seem to be left with some absolute grug tier "White guy win, therefore white supremacy."

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah but do you actually believe in the retard tier interpretation you offered?

That was the interpretation and impression I had when I watched the movie. I agree that your interpretation is probably closer to the intention.

[–]WaltzRoommate 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Have you ever heard of the film "White Dog"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Dog

It's by the same Jewish director. Read the plot and tell me this dude doesn't hate us.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It would seem so

[–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Are they intentionally anti-white when making this move? Or is it just some liberal making a story he thinks is good for everyone? I'm not sure how one would always know, besides there being a Jewish director who is known for being anti-white. At least in this scenario we can see opposite interpretations.

[–]WaltzRoommate 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This film was directed by a Jewish director who's known for being anti-white. Look up his film "White dog."