Why I am not a libertarian, an ancap, or a voluntarist

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[–]DragonerneJesus is white 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Well written.

In danish conversations I've had success with such people by saying that the corporations are free to find a different market if they don't like the rules in Denmark. It is their choice to do business here and they are free to leave if they don't like it.
As the saying goes: "If you don't like the smell in the bakery"

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"If you don't like the smell in the bakery

How accurate. Denmark is known for its pro-small business environment. 70% of businesses in Denmark have less than 50 people employed. This isn't an accident. This is the result of government policy. There's no reason why America - or any other white nation - couldn't look like that again. Letting the "free market" do whatever it wants will always lead to big business consolidation.

[–]WaltzRoommate[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have certainly noticed that libertarians are happy to accept, "Well then don't make an income" when the question is getting mistreated by any job you'd work at, but not when it's the answer they receive about paying taxes.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If u want gayness go to Canada!

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'll use that one but exchange Canada with Sweden :)

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

A great write up, I have had the same thoughts although Satre's words articulate it far better than I could (I've never read his works by the way, any recommendations?). The presumption of voluntary libertarianism is that we are free to make choices as we please and if we fail than it is the fault of our bad choices, but this is a kind of application of tabula rasa applied to reality where we reject that any environmental contextual issues play a part in our life. The ideology in general, including both its economic and social tenets, are full of contradictions and flaws when analysed critically (and it becomes even more a challenge to piece together when you start identifying as a conservative libertarian like many libertarians who are close to the dissident right do).

[–]WaltzRoommate[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I've never read his works by the way, any recommendations?

No, he's a pretentious shit lib. Literally married to Simone de Beauvoir, the mother of feminism, and it was an open relationship. I only know him because I majored in philosophy and had to. I'd recommend checking his wikipedia page, spending ten or fifteen minutes on it, and then go find a better thinker to invest the kind of serious time and effort it takes to read a book by a pretentious dude of another era that was translated from another language.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You forgot he was a paedophile and horrifically ugly

[–]WaltzRoommate[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

paedophile

Shit, I didn't even know this.

Not surprised though.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

He signed the petition to eliminate the age of consent, he and his wife both advocated for paedophilia. We can only assume they were both raping kids in their free time, based on his physiognomy it's not really surprising.

[–]AFutureConcern 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Let me just check his Wikipedia real quick, yep - there it is:

was a French philosopher

Every. Single. Time.

[–]WaltzRoommate[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

He literally wrote books about anti-semitism. He was the ultimate shabbos goy.

[–]AFutureConcern 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Of course, I'm mostly just memeing, but there really is a pattern to be noticed of pretentious French philosophers spewing absolute crap that gets taken way too seriously.

[–]WaltzRoommate[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This shit all started in France. The French revolution was the big bang of POZ, which is not to say that the cracks weren't started earlier.

[–]Jacinda 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A great deal of his stuff was written while he was on speed. I think this influenced both his thinking and his writing style probably to his detriment although how you would prove it, I don't know.

cc: u/Talmudstein

[–]Nombre27 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Libertarianism is just the point of attack for atomizing people economically from society.

Feminism is the point of attack for atomizing women from their families.

Atheism is the point of attack for atomizing people from their religious community.

Liberalism is the point of attack for atomizing society through legislation.

All these things weaken the bonds of a community and make it vulnerable while making the kool-aid drinkers feel empowered. The problem ironically enough, is that some of these same libertarian thinkers pointed out the importance of understanding the net effect of an economic policy, i.e. the broken window fallacy, the seen and the unseen, subsidies, etc.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with the others regarding Sartre but I will say that there's a possibility some on the Dissident Right might identify with the plight of the main character in The Stranger. It's not well written in my opinion and is rather dull and uninspired. Who knows maybe the prose comes alive in the original French.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Libertarianism, anarcho-capitalism, and voluntaryism are just extreme iterations of liberalism, especially when it comes to economics. They're also completely fake ideologies that wouldn't even exist without endless funding from billionaires.

[–]WaltzRoommate[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you guys are upvoting here, it'd be really nice if you could upvote on ruqqus too in order to promote the visibility of our guild.

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    [–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's much the same as the argument about open borders and having a welfare state.

    It's insane to have one policy that supposedly enables freedom, while having another wholly destructive policy that works in conjunction with the former.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    A corporation is a miniature government whose raison detre is to make money rather than protect a nation

    [–]arainynightinskyrim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    To grow our subs try to crosspost on

    https://ruqqus.com/+DebateTheDissidentRight?sort=new