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[–]marc_gee 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

if they were really intelligent why would they make it so obvious by banning people that criticize Jews for having too much power?

Censoring opposition is very intelligent and any society has to do it to maintain its ideology. The altright is currently losing as a result of censorship.

[–]antireddit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There's truth to this to be sure, but the difference now is that they are doing this in the age of the internet, when its nearly impossible to censor everything, and trying makes it obvious to others what you're doing. Another important difference is they are doing it in places like the US and Europe that place a huge emphasis on freedom of speech and thought.

The censorship is what red pilled me on this issue to begin with. If it wasnt for that I'd still be largely unaware of their power. They are literally proving their critics right. To be successful they will increasingly have to rely on terrorizing their critics and everyone else into silence, which seems like a losing strategy when you make up only 2% of the population. Now obviously their plan is to use propaganda to convince everyone else that the critics are evil and should be hated, but I'm not sure that is something that will be successful indefinitely either. Young people will always love to rebel against authority and the more they censor, the more obvious it is who the authority is.

[–]AFutureConcern 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The censorship is what red pilled me on this issue to begin with.

Me too. In fact I'd go so far to say that the censorship is the issue that pushed me to the dissident right. I had no idea how people with very reasonable views were suppressed. As the censorship continued, the denial and fabrications of "hatred" were just too much; even moderates were getting silenced and I decided at that point to deliberately seek out the "extreme" content. Well it turns out the "extreme" content doesn't exist - and even those on the supposed "far-right" are for the most part pointing out the insanity of the left and complaining about the censorship.

There's truth to this to be sure, but the difference now is that they are doing this in the age of the internet, when its nearly impossible to censor everything, and trying to makes it obvious to others what you're doing.

I'll caveat my other point, though, by pointing out that censorship only needs to be done to reduce the connectivity of networks. With suitable measurement of dissident communities, and the influence they have, the elites are able to engineer mathematical formulae to optimize for minimum dissident network size. They pick certain accounts and ban them (e.g. Stefan Molyneux, not exactly Alt-Right), with surgical precision, to fracture the right-wing networks and minimize their impact.

Case in point - you can write whatever you want, here or on Ruqqus. But the number of people here is far less than even the "quarantined" sub back on Reddit. So the censorship's been achieved even if we're technically not completely shut down. Moreover, userbases that were centralized on YouTube, Twitter, Reddit and Facebook with a large number of casual eyeballs observing them are now banned and split between Saidit, Ruqqus, Parler, Gab, Minds and probably hundreds of similar platforms (including smaller ones like Poal, Voat etc.). They're winning, and even if we can regain some momentum the censorship will just get even worse to counter it.

Perhaps there are signs that the system is failing, though. Already they're having to censor things as innocuous as FBI crime statistics, simply noticing that Jews have disproportionate power, or objecting to coronavirus lockdowns. A lot of people are rightfully pissed. Perhaps as America falls and China rises, we'll see a mad last exercise of power before they finally leave us alone. One can hope.