Are there any historical situations similar to ours?

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I always look towards history for solutions and outcomes of things, but I'm not sure of any situations where a country actively hated themselves and were welcoming foreigners to take their voting power, cities, money and women.

Can anyone think of any? I would like to research it.

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[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is mostly manufactured by the media. If our populations were allowed to directly vote on issues mass immigration would have been shut down decades ago.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This 2020 election will be interested to observe, not because of outcome, but because of comparing the results to previous elections.

My prediction is that turnout will be much lower, because people don't have any real representation in this cycle, they got senile old man and golden class con-man who betrayed his voters on almost every issue of his 2016. campaign, both staunch zionists.

In Croatia we voted overwhelmingly against gay marriage, and they just introduced civil unions and gave them right to adopt kids.

That's why they hate direct democracy and meritocracy, because it leads to fascism.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

No, the industrial, high tech, prosperous world the West has been living in is unique and has no comparison in history. The warped psychology of European people could not occur in any previous era history. You can find demographic shifts that likely contribute to the decline of a civilizations though.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The closest thing I can think of is the plight of the American Indians. Where are they now?

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

American Indians did not have an elite or culture that showed preference for the "other" against their own.

[–]Minedwe 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean, you could somewhat draw comparisons with the Aztec/South American civilizations: They saw their invaders and the implements of their own destruction as Godlike entities and revered them, or so goes the story.

[–]asterias 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe ancient Rome?

[–]Jacinda 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I often think of what happened to Texas.

Amren:

When Mexico became independent of Spain in 1821 it tried to populate Texas by encouraging American immigration, but as Mr. Merry writes, “the newcomers rejected loyalty to Mexico and cast their devotion to their ethnic brethren in the United States.” Mexico woke up to what was happening and outlawed immigration in 1830, but could not stop it. Texas won independence from Mexico in 1836 and was recognized by the United States and the European powers.

An entire civilization actively working to bring about its own demise is I think unprecedented in history.

[–]ShiversRussia2017 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Rome I'd say is the closest when you compare probably the malaise/apathy the average Roman was under compared to the average Europe. Maybe Imperial Spain is another example. The average Spaniard didn't really seem to care that their empire was falling after the 1820s.

[–]DoubleReverse 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (76 children)

There have been countless times throughout history where the formerly privileged class is resentful of a changing social dynamic. You can read about what the czarists though of the bolsheviks, the European response to colonial uprisings, the writings of deposed monarchs,, so on so forth. The general sentiment always amounts to "I feel entitled to special treatment and the fact that I'm not receiving it is unfair."

[–]arainynightinskyrim 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

The jewish troll is back.

"I feel entitled to special treatment and the fact that I'm not receiving it is unfair.

It's our land you stupid troll.

[–]DoubleReverse 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

It's not though, you just think it should be.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

yes, it is. America is by and for Whites, Jews can try to rewrite history but we have it in writing.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

History isn't the question, we live in the present

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're the worst shill ever. And by that I mean you're not very good at it.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ok

[–]arainynightinskyrim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Europe is our land and that is not debatable in any way.

A question for you jew, where are you from?

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Europe is our land and that is not debatable in any way.

K

A question for you jew, where are you from?

Delaware

[–]arainynightinskyrim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Why don't you move to Israel jew?

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm not even jewish

[–]arainynightinskyrim 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Come on it's obvious, only a jew would be so obsessed with us and would lose his time being a shill, trying to demoralize and debating in bad faith.

[–]DoubleReverse 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ok

[–]arainynightinskyrim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Israel is not jewish land jew, it is palestinian, and this is not debatable. Europe on the other hand is our land, America is debatable but it is whites that built those countries and made them what they are.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That doesn't mean it was you, or any other person alive today who happens to share their skin color or ethnicity.

[–]arainynightinskyrim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

My ancestors had that land for tens of thousands of years and I inherited it from them.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm not talking about your private land

[–]arainynightinskyrim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The entire country is the private land of my ethnic group, that's what countries are.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If it was your land you'd have the deed

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

That is not what is happening in the West. The changing social dynamic is being driven by the elite.

[–]Trump77 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Keep the pressure on this vermin, do not concede to this rat face.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Regardless of who you blame it on, the essence of the conflict is the same. You feel entitled to special treatment that you're not recieving.

[–]AFutureConcern 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Ordinarily I find accusations of "entitlement" to be utterly baseless, but weirdly, in this case, it fits. Yes, we are entitled to our own homelands; we are entitled to make decisions regarding immigration - at least on paper. In theory, the public will to restrict immigration should have been respected, to preserve our collective ownership over our lands. In reality, democracy is a lie, and the elite sold us out for their high-minded bourgeois notions of internationalism, cosmopolitanism, equality and diversity. The elite, not grounded in blood and soil, not rooted in the tradition of the nations they govern, saw no value in tradition and heritage, they saw no reason to preserve the very lands they rule over. Hence they grounded their values in "progress"; the expansion of techno-capital and the erasure of "outdated" traditions, ideas and distinctions between peoples - and in doing so, they stole our inheritance that we were entitled to.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But you are NOT entitled to persecute other people or treat them as second class citizens.

[–]AFutureConcern 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Firstly, "persecute" is a strong word for simply not letting people into our countries, and we're absolutely entitled to do that anyway.

Secondly, some people simply are second-class citizens. People flying "economy" are not treated the same as those in first-class - because they are literally second-class travelers. Similarly, the interests of the native people come first, with the interests of those with less of a stake in the country coming, yes, second.

Second-class doesn't mean we treat people horribly, or that we are mean or violent toward them. It does mean that we weight their interests lower, just like we provide the best food to the first-class passengers on a flight.

(I should also note that it's white people who are treated as second-class citizens in our own countries as it stands; so even the classical liberals are on our side in fighting anti-whiteism.)

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Firstly, "persecute" is a strong word for simply not letting people into our countries, and we're absolutely entitled to do that anyway.

Don't pretend you are just against immigration, there are plenty of minorities who already live here.

Secondly, some people simply are second-class citizens.

No. They are a citizen or they aren't. No excuses.

[–]arainynightinskyrim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

We don't feel entitled to special treatment, we simply want our countries that belong to us and nobody else.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You just live here, the country doesn't belong to you.

[–]arainynightinskyrim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That doesn't make any sense, it does belong to us, countries belong to the ethnic group that lived there for thousands of years and that created that country.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not this one

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Who is 'you'?

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

White supremacists/the alt right

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

How were German farmers privileged in Germany in the past? And why shouldn't a German be privileged in Germany over non-Germans? What divine right does an an African have to be in Germany and enjoy equal rights as Germans, the people who built the country?

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

Does it matter? You're not entitled to special treatment and nobody deserves to be treated like a second class citizen.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Stop arguing in bad faith or you will be banned. Answer the questions and stop deflecting.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

They're loaded questions. A German should get special treatment in Germany, but you don't get to decide somebody isn't German because their ancestors weren't German or they have the wrong skin color or anything like that. It's a nationality, not an ethnicity.

[–]arainynightinskyrim 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It is an ethnicity, nationality is just a meaningless piece of paper, a country is made of an ethnic group. To put it simply a rat born or that moved in a stable does become a horse, he remains a rat.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It doesn't matter whether you think somebody is a horse or a rat, they have the same rights you do.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

According to who?

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Society

[–]arainynightinskyrim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're again arguing in bad faith and changing the subject.

[–]president_camacho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

A German should get special treatment in Germany, but you don't get to decide somebody isn't German because their ancestors weren't German or they have the wrong skin color or anything like that. It's a nationality, not an ethnicity.

German is literally an ethnicity you dope. lmao.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not how I'm using it

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Its not special, its just. I should be privileged in the land my ancestors built and shed blood for. My ancestors shed that blood so I might prosper. I have zero obligation to give anything to a washed up negro. If the nigger doesn't like it, he can go back to his slum in Somalia. He shouldn't even be allowed to set foot in the first place.

Every country acts like this outside the West. In Saudi Arabia you can't vote or receive welfare unless you're a purebred Arab. In Israel, foreigners are barred from having sex with Jewish women and they conduct DNA tests for immigrants to ascertain if their Jewish. In Vietnam you can't open a business unless you have a vietnamese partner. In Japan, preference is given to native Japanese when it comes to housing and taxation.

Every country treats outsiders as second class citizens, that's the norm. Imagine going to Israel and telling them taht their courts are too Jewish, and they shouldn't have preferential hiring practices for Jews

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I should be privileged in the land my ancestors built and shed blood for.

No you shouldn't

My ancestors shed that blood so I might prosper.

Then go ahead and enjoy it instead of starting stupid fights over skin color.

Every country acts like this outside the West.

We have no obligation to emulate them.

Every country treats outsiders as second class citizens, that's the norm.

So does America, we just don't base our in group on vapid shit like skin color.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why? Why should anyone do any of the things you say? What moral basis do you have?

The same left that says that morality is subjective, and cultures are all equal, turns around and condemns nationalism. If all cultures are equal, then nationalist and bigoted cultures are just as valid as progressivism. By what ground is your progresive culture superior? You neither believe in God, nor accept natural law as a valid measure.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you want to take it from that kind of nihilist amoral perspective, it's because if you persecute other people you'll go to prison.

[–]arainynightinskyrim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

You do not understand, non whites do not belong in white countries and will have to leave, it is simple.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

It's not a white country. It's just a country.

[–]arainynightinskyrim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

It is a white country, countries are made of people belonging to a certain ethnicity even today, multiculturalis leads to ethnic conflict like in Myanmar recently. Do you understand that the fast majority of the countries in the world are monoracial? So why should we white people lose their land and become minorities in their own countries?

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You're not losing anything, just because you live here doesn't mean the whole country belongs to you.

[–]arainynightinskyrim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It belongs to my ethnic group.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Not how it works

[–]arainynightinskyrim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It is exactly how it works, it works this way in every country in the world with a tiny number of exceptions.

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    [–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    There is no equivalency whatsoever between people needing a homeland to safely thrive in

    You have a homeland, you don't need to persecute others in it

    You and your ilk can't come up with a single good reason as to why any ethnic group isn't entitled to a homeland that is exclusively theirs.

    Because there are other ethnic groups, of which the people's welfare is no less valid than your own.

    Where the fuck do you think you're going to live once the 'majority-minority' decide that your privileged ass has no place existing in what will by that time be 'their' land?

    I wouldn't let that happen.

    And even if you don't, your descendants are going to live in a practical hell because of your ignorance

    And it won't be because I wasn't racist enough

    Do you think Africans have trouble accepting that Africa should be exclusively theirs?

    Africa has as much ethnic diversity as America or Europe, likely more.

    It's obvious that you don't apply this logic to anyone but Whites. Africa belongs to blacks, doesn't it? Doesn't it!? Don't say it doesn't, racist.

    No, it doesn't. There are people of every conceivable skin color in Africa, and most of the continent has tons of non-black heritage.

    Your opinion really boils down to this: everyone is entitled to land but Whites.

    Not true

    What you're advocating is nothing short of total genocide. You will leave us with no place in which we are safe, in which our people and culture can thrive.

    This isn't real, you don't need to persecute other people to stay safe and forbidding you from doing so is nothing remotely close to genocide.

    You'll get hundreds of millions of people killed for little more than ignorant idealism.

    You want to persecute millions of people just because of your own bigotry. I'm just telling you not to.

    The fact that you see a people's willingness to survive and prosper as equal to 'privilege' and 'oppression' says it all, you utterly vile little worm.

    Again, not real.

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      [–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Being a minority in my own home means it isn't my home.

      However you label yourself doesn't entitle you to persecute other people.

      My own welfare is more important within my own home than that of a squatter. Squatters have no rights whatsoever in my own home, and should be evicted. Your vile universalism implies that there should be no place in which my own welfare should be the highest priority, which is flagrantly unacceptable.

      Your welfare is not more important than other people's, regardless of how you label them or yourself. Nobody owes you special treatment.

      You aren't going to have a choice in the matter once the majority-minority tell you to fuck off, which they will once they're safely the majority and motivated to do so exactly by the ignorant anti-White bullshit spread ironically by those who are like yourself. A good example of how people are their own worst enemies.

      We'll see about that.

      You don't seriously believe that Africa should be diversified out of existence. You would oppose tens of millions of Chinese coming to Africa and effectively colonizing it.

      I wouldn't care at all.

      Do you seriously think we don't understand you?

      Lol, you very obviously don't. It would be clear as day even just from reading this specific exchange.

      Forbidding people from defending their own land/home means they end up landless/homeless. The consequence is dispossession or death.

      I'm not doing that.

      You view the survival of an entire race as equivalent to the maintenance of 'privilege' and 'oppression'.

      No I don't.

      Self-defeating, genocide-advocating nonsense. Which explains why you dismiss it without seriously engaging with the idea—you plain and simply can't.

      There's nothing to engage with, you're attacking an opinion I don't hold.

      Just catch the Rona you fucking piece of shit!

      I hope you overcome your insecurity and hate and grow as a person, if only for the sake of your own well-being.

      [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      Europe for whites only, get that mulatto kike shit out of here thanks

      [–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Good luck with that, chud

      [–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      There is no equivalency whatsoever between people needing a homeland to safely thrive in

      You have a homeland, you don't need to persecute others in it

      You and your ilk can't come up with a single good reason as to why any ethnic group isn't entitled to a homeland that is exclusively theirs.

      Because there are other ethnic groups, of which the people's welfare is no less valid than your own.

      Where the fuck do you think you're going to live once the 'majority-minority' decide that your privileged ass has no place existing in what will by that time be 'their' land?

      I wouldn't let that happen.

      And even if you don't, your descendants are going to live in a practical hell because of your ignorance

      And it won't be because I wasn't racist enough

      Do you think Africans have trouble accepting that Africa should be exclusively theirs?

      Africa has as much ethnic diversity as America or Europe, likely more.

      It's obvious that you don't apply this logic to anyone but Whites. Africa belongs to blacks, doesn't it? Doesn't it!? Don't say it doesn't, racist.

      No, it doesn't. There are people of every conceivable skin color in Africa, and most of the continent has tons of non-black heritage.

      Your opinion really boils down to this: everyone is entitled to land but Whites.

      Not true

      What you're advocating is nothing short of total genocide. You will leave us with no place in which we are safe, in which our people and culture can thrive.

      This isn't real, you don't need to persecute other people to stay safe and forbidding you from doing so is nothing remotely close to genocide.

      You'll get hundreds of millions of people killed for little more than ignorant idealism.

      You want to persecute millions of people just because of your own bigotry. I'm just telling you not to.

      The fact that you see a people's willingness to survive and prosper as equal to 'privilege' and 'oppression' says it all, you utterly vile little worm.

      Again, not real.

      [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      There have been countless times throughout history where the formerly privileged class is resentful of a changing social dynamic.

      You sound like the evil genocidal Jew Barbara Spectre.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G45WthPTo24

      You can read about what the czarists though of the bolsheviks

      The Bolsheviks were not a 'changing social dynamic'. That's an incredibly dishonest and deceptive reading of history (and even a casual glance at your account shows that's not an accident). They were bloody terrorists that murdered political rivals, committed genocide and created a complicated labyrinth of mental and physical torture camps that some people become stuck in their entire lives. Tens of millions of people died.

      [–]president_camacho 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      If you read the widely historically accepted accounts of some of the shit that went on during the red terror, it's pretty mind boggling. The level of cruelty and psychopathy easily surpasses most of what the Nazis were accused of. The widespread accounts of torture and mass murder include some of the worst examples I've ever heard of. That he would casually use them as an example of what he wants for the west shows this guy's continuous passive aggressiveness conceals a deeper sociopathy.

      [–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      The Bolsheviks were not a 'changing social dynamic'... They were bloody terrorists that murdered political rivals, committed genocide and created a complicated labyrinth of mental and physical torture camps

      Those things are not mutually exclusive

      [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      Whites are entitled to special treatment in white countries.

      [–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      It's not a white country. It's just a country.

      [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      There is no magic dirt here. Taking over a white country and declaring it just a (brown) country isn't a solution for you. You're just expanding your shithole to a new location.

      [–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      It's not my country either.

      [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      It's not mine anymore either.

      [–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Then stop trying to use it as an excuse to persecute minorities

      [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      The altright will still use that excuse because it WAS our country and we obviously want it back. We all know the brown people are going to turn it into another shithole.

      [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      There are historical examples, but you have to look at cult like religious groups, not nations. There have been cults throughout history where the members happily engage in behavior contrary to their interests with extreme ethusiasm.

      That is what we are seeing now, a new church, on a very large scale, with a strong grip on it's true believers, who happen to be our white neighbors. I doubt they can be deprogrammed within the current state of the west. We have never seen a propaganda machine this powerful before.