The problem with this stuff is that it creates a defensive narrative which is patently false, that we're in power and need to defend the system from these outsider subversives or something. The exact opposite is the case, we are powerless and they own every institution.

Well I completely agree with your assessment of our situation here, but we were in control at some point in the past, it's just that the subversion already happened and the old regime is already dead. I don't think it's such a stretch for normie conservatives, aware of subversion, to come to realize that it happened years ago and that nobody in power is really on our side.

Normie conservatives are also overwhelmingly white, so I side with them for that reason too.

Imagine if we were in power as National Socialists and we had a massive faction of our controlled opposition calling us subversive jewish supremacist zionists who are trying to overthrow the state. This is exactly what you're saying if you talk about communists/jewish subversives/cultural marxists etc.

Well it's not what I'm saying - to extend your analogy, it would be like if we were in power as National Socialists and a massive faction of our controlled opposition claimed we got there by a "long march through the internets" utilizing weaponized Pepe memes to subvert established Jewish power.

All the narratives surrounding these things create a twisted narrative which only harms nationalists, the 'long march through the institutions' is the prime example of this. That shit NEVER HAPPENED, people don't just accidentally give away their power or somehow have the rug pulled from underneath them by some massive secret organisation or some shit. The people in power WANTED these ideas spread because they benefited them.

Liberals absolutely do this. Controlled by the cultural pressure from the media, how many white billionaires have dedicated their fortune to charitable anti-white causes (diversity and equality initiatives, helping blacks in Africa), instead of helping their children (let alone white people more generally)? The people in power wanted these ideas spread, but not because they benefited them, but because they believed them.

The "long march through the institutions" absolutely happened and ideas that could have come directly from the mouths of the critical theorists of the Frankfurt School are being espoused by mainstream media pundits. Part of this is still going on; while the power in academia and media has somewhat metastasized the average (conservative) normie still wouldn't agree with ideas from critical whiteness studies and the like - that's changing rapidly.

You're absolutely right when you say that conservatives defending the "attack on Western civilization" (e.g. Proud Boys) are misguided because "Western civilization" is already dead and now refers to a corpse infested with parasites. But what remains of what leftists call "whiteness" is now under attack in the same way; the remaining institutions and cultural norms created by and for white people that have not yet rotted away are being targeted. They can't be saved, but the instinct to save them and the analysis that they are under attack is correct.