Colby Covington Defeats Tyron Woodley

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Tyson Fury isn't bad because he actually knows about jews, banking and stuff. Colby's normie conservative boomer facebook anti-left meme kinda stuff is just stupid, I find the guy funny but the in terms of the political rhetoric he uses it's worthless, that stuff is intentionally harmless because it's designed and propagated by jews. The dude called Tyron Woodley a marxist and communist, I'd bet money on Tyron never even hearing the name Karl Marx in his entire life. It's just dumb.

[–]AFutureConcern 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I don't have beef with boomers who blame everything on "the commies" because ultimately a large number of Jewish subversives were and are communists. Communism/equality is also the excuse currently used by anti-whites to justify their anti-whiteism. So it's really not too far off from the truth to blame it on the communists.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Do you think the jews would be stupid enough to teach everyone to oppose zionism if we all started tactically branding ourselves as zionists whilst being National Socialists? Muh gommunism is a jewish trick to distract you from jews, liberalism and capitalism which is what these people are really furthering.

[–]AFutureConcern 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The way I see it, "capitalism", or the sum total of all industry in competition with each other, is merely a tool that our elite wield that is more effective at achieving their political and social goals. In a sense the DR3 "anti-racist" conservative normies are correct - if you want to destroy whiteness, exile anyone who acknowledges racial differences, dissolve the nuclear family, erase the world's borders, and promote degeneracy - there's nothing better to achieve those goals than international capitalism.

But "capitalism" isn't an ideology in itself; it leaves a void to be filled by religious conviction. In our Christian (and more segregated - owing to being less technologically advanced) past, this actually worked out well for white people. But our modern-day religion is the "woke" religion, which is rooted in anti-whiteness, equalitarianism and Marxian conflict theory. It intellectual roots can be traced back directly to the (overwhelmingly Jewish) thinkers of the Frankfurt School, who could be described as post-Marxists.

It is very important also to point out that the state is larger than ever - there is no traditional society that had even close to our ~50% of GDP spent by the government. This spending is largely spent on non-white immigrants and old white people who didn't have enough children to take care of them in their old age. This money is extracted from predominantly middle-age whites who now need both husband and wife to work just to get by. Can a traditional society exist with over 50% of GDP spent by government? I don't know the answer; all I know is that it has never happened before. Hoppe makes a good argument that high taxation and high redistribution encourages high time preference, and therefore disincentivizes planning for the future by forming a traditional family, staying away from vice, upholding morality and so on, and incentivizes instant gratification and hedonism. It certainly fits with historical evidence.

The simplest way to see it is as both left and normie right being two heads of the same beast, and since they both espouse the virtue of "equality" (especially ontological equality of the "divine spark" variety), I count them both on the left. And yes, Jews play a disproportionate role in both heads.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The problem with this stuff is that it creates a defensive narrative which is patently false, that we're in power and need to defend the system from these outsider subversives or something. The exact opposite is the case, we are powerless and they own every institution. We need to completely divorce from all conservatism, in our language and rhetoric, and in our way of thinking. We DON'T live in a society, we CAN'T tell people to 'go back to their own country' or 'get off my lawn' because it's white people who are the outcasts, the subversive revolutionaries, the have-nots.

Imagine if we were in power as National Socialists and we had a massive faction of our controlled opposition calling us subversive jewish supremacist zionists who are trying to overthrow the state. This is exactly what you're saying if you talk about communists/jewish subversives/cultural marxists etc. All the narratives surrounding these things create a twisted narrative which only harms nationalists, the 'long march through the institutions' is the prime example of this. That shit NEVER HAPPENED, people don't just accidentally give away their power or somehow have the rug pulled from underneath them by some massive secret organisation or some shit. The people in power WANTED these ideas spread because they benefited them. Again, we need to divorce completely from everything about conservatism because it's all jewish poison to stop people being able to oppose the system.

(I realise I'm not replying to what you said because you took to some hoppean stuff which I don't care about at all. I just expanded on why I think using conservative language is retarded)

[–]AFutureConcern 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The problem with this stuff is that it creates a defensive narrative which is patently false, that we're in power and need to defend the system from these outsider subversives or something. The exact opposite is the case, we are powerless and they own every institution.

Well I completely agree with your assessment of our situation here, but we were in control at some point in the past, it's just that the subversion already happened and the old regime is already dead. I don't think it's such a stretch for normie conservatives, aware of subversion, to come to realize that it happened years ago and that nobody in power is really on our side.

Normie conservatives are also overwhelmingly white, so I side with them for that reason too.

Imagine if we were in power as National Socialists and we had a massive faction of our controlled opposition calling us subversive jewish supremacist zionists who are trying to overthrow the state. This is exactly what you're saying if you talk about communists/jewish subversives/cultural marxists etc.

Well it's not what I'm saying - to extend your analogy, it would be like if we were in power as National Socialists and a massive faction of our controlled opposition claimed we got there by a "long march through the internets" utilizing weaponized Pepe memes to subvert established Jewish power.

All the narratives surrounding these things create a twisted narrative which only harms nationalists, the 'long march through the institutions' is the prime example of this. That shit NEVER HAPPENED, people don't just accidentally give away their power or somehow have the rug pulled from underneath them by some massive secret organisation or some shit. The people in power WANTED these ideas spread because they benefited them.

Liberals absolutely do this. Controlled by the cultural pressure from the media, how many white billionaires have dedicated their fortune to charitable anti-white causes (diversity and equality initiatives, helping blacks in Africa), instead of helping their children (let alone white people more generally)? The people in power wanted these ideas spread, but not because they benefited them, but because they believed them.

The "long march through the institutions" absolutely happened and ideas that could have come directly from the mouths of the critical theorists of the Frankfurt School are being espoused by mainstream media pundits. Part of this is still going on; while the power in academia and media has somewhat metastasized the average (conservative) normie still wouldn't agree with ideas from critical whiteness studies and the like - that's changing rapidly.

You're absolutely right when you say that conservatives defending the "attack on Western civilization" (e.g. Proud Boys) are misguided because "Western civilization" is already dead and now refers to a corpse infested with parasites. But what remains of what leftists call "whiteness" is now under attack in the same way; the remaining institutions and cultural norms created by and for white people that have not yet rotted away are being targeted. They can't be saved, but the instinct to save them and the analysis that they are under attack is correct.