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[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Just for the record calling Jews just a religion is pathetic. Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein didn't practice Judaism but they were still Jewish. But are you seriously making the claim that religious groups don't have agency? Are you fucking insane? So Catholics don't ever do things as Catholics in the name of Catholicism?

I've never, ever heard that claim before and I'm a little thunderstruck.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But are you seriously making the claim that religious groups don't have agency?

No, I'm claiming the religion doesn't have agency.

So Catholics don't ever do things as Catholics in the name of Catholicism?

People can do whatever they want in the name of whoever they want, but it's still individuals doing those things. Do you look at Christian fundies taking Genesis literally and conclude that Christians don't believe in evolution?

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No, I'm claiming the religion doesn't have agency.

The Jewish religion explicitly states it's a matriarchal genetic tribe. Sperma of Abraham. Converting to Judaism is difficult and convoluted on purpose. Your point is moot. Your argument is specious. You knew that though. You're just arguing in bad faith. Please check out the rules on the sidebar. Furthermore, Jews themselves are constantly accusing other religions (many of which are genuinely universalist) of having extreme agency.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jews: It's your God but he has Chosen US!