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[–]SoylentCapitalist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Is it better if the explanation for why they are such shitbags that they're more impulsive rather than have a 'warrior gene'? How so?

Yes, because low-dose stimulants would reduce their crime in this case. Therefore we have a treatment that doesn't require some kind of genetic modification which is impossible at this time.

Also how would it change the fact that I don't want to live around these impulsive people who can't think ahead and don't consider consequences whatever the explanation is?

For the reason I mentioned above. Treatment would solve that issue.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So you want to have a racially specific program of giving Blacks low doses of stimulants to curb their impulsiveness? Well why the fuck are you telling us you lunatic?

If Dexamphetamine is some kind of magic Soma for Black people then go talk to them. It isn't and obviously you clearly know nothing about how stimulants of that kind actually work. You never, over time, take a small dose and you never get the same result from the first dose that you do from the second but if you're prescribing that blacks need to be medicated on a mass scale then TALK TO THEM. Why are you talking to a WN about this? I can't medicate them.

[–]SoylentCapitalist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You never, over time, take a small dose

False. The brain structure changes for the better with long-term treatment, at least has been seen in those with ADHD behaviors. Which I'm arguing, since blacks on average suffer from impulsivity as you also mentioned and basically every symptom of ADHD that comes with that, it could potentially fix the issue.

Long-term treatment with methylphenidate seems to be safe and effective for the management of ADHD behaviors

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10197827/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20Long%2Dterm%20treatment%20with,mild%20to%20moderate%20tic%20disorder.

Ironic because it's clear you haven't done any research yourself. You wouldn't use dexamphetamine, as amphetamines are typically more neurotoxic than dopamine reuptake inhibitors (methylphenidate) which typically aren't neurotoxic at all.

and you never get the same result from the first dose that you do from the second

Just say tolerance for christ sake.

Why are you talking to a WN about this? I can't medicate them.

There aren't many other groups I can debate this issue with.

[–]AFutureConcern 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The problem with proposing something like this to "close the racial gap" is that what you're doing is essentially no different from affirmative action and there is no end to your program.

If medicating people to prevent violence is a good idea, why not apply it to all men? After all, men are significantly more violent than women. Why not give the weak, steroids, or the ugly, facelifts? And once medical science has been employed to equalize all groups' natural tendencies, we'll find something else to differentiate each other by, and you'll go on trying to dissolve that, too.

The real question is, why do you mind that group differences exist in the first place? If we get people to accept administering different drugs to different groups, we've already got people to accept that groups are different, and that's the big challenge in the first place. White people won't accept being discriminated against in admissions forever, and blacks won't accept being drugged to repress their nature forever. If only they'd accept that groups are different, and they could live with group inequality. Removing the inequality doesn't actually solve the problem.

[–]SoylentCapitalist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If medicating people to prevent violence is a good idea, why not apply it to all men?

Well, you wouldn't medicate someone if they didn't need it. The threshold for what someone needs in this case we can see that impulsivity in blacks does need treatment to match the population we consider healthy. Whites are treated this way, at least those with ADHD. The difference is other people won't be paying for it, but it would simply be a recognized treatment for impulsive behavior in general.

White people won't accept being discriminated against in admissions forever, and blacks won't accept being drugged to repress their nature forever. If only they'd accept that groups are different, and they could live with group inequality. Removing the inequality doesn't actually solve the problem.

I'd say that living with those inequalities and crime in their community is a worse scenario than receiving the same treatment ADHD individuals do.