What exactly is wrong with Tommy Robinson?

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I used to think he was a good man for standing up to muslim grooming and stuff but then I learned he was a zionist and also have heard people say they don't like him anymore, but why exactly?

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

He directs people's anger with our politicians into stuff that neither helps us nor hurts the people in power, further than that he literally steals massive amounts of money in donations to produce propaganda for Jews. His mortgage fraud case was literally with a Rothschild too, dude is just a subversive working for Jews.

[–]AFutureConcern 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He's not even subverting anything. He's openly a liberal Zionist. The only reason he's viewed as on our side at all is because the media portrays him in such a crazy way, as if he's this radical figure. He literally doesn't like Muslims because they don't like gay people and sometimes young Muslim men take their faith seriously instead of submitting to GloboHomo.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well given that by his own admission he completely supports the persecution and destruction of people like us I'm not sure why anyone on the dissident right has an obligation to the man but basically his whole angle is to funnel Nationalist energy away from actual nationalism into mere dislike for 'radical Islam' and support for Jews and Zionism. That's his purpose. Like with Wilders in Holland it's also actually not a right wing position he takes on Islam. Far from it. His complaint with Islam is that it isn't liberal enough.

He also has failed to ever seriously address the aspect of the grooming gang scandal -- I don't follow him or anything so maybe I'm wrong about this -- that is the most important namely that it was as much to do with race and ethnicity as Islam. Those men in their own words saw their victims as disposable because of ethnic and racial hatred. Reforming Islam isn't going to change that. That's why he's a fraud.

Also as Markimus pointed out he took the money from his mostly working class white supporters and used it to make a film about some Jew who may or may have not committed suicide because of Muslims harassing him.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Also as Markimus pointed out he took the money from his mostly working class white supporters and used it to make a film about some Jew who may or may have not committed suicide because of Muslims harassing him.

He didn't the dude was an actor and he's still alive.

[–]probgoingtohell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Islam liberalizing is a positive though as it weakens their birth rates. That not only has the effect of slowing replacement but can also cause other Arab nations to start calling Muslim immigrants back home to make up for the slowing birthrate. The low birth rate might even have positive economic effect for their nations thus ensuring immigrants will less likely to flood White nations.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You totally miss the point. What I'm trying to say is that seeking reform of Islam to make it more liberal is ridiculous and will never happen -- nor would I wish it on any group. Frauds like Robinson seek to 'reform' Islam well I'll tell you there are many potent forms of Islam that have undergone a reformation. They're the ones practiced by Qutb, Bin Laden and Isis. They are literally reform strains of Islam and no one in their right mind is going to reform Islam to be more sterile and if you think some fat moron from Luton is going to inspire Islam to 'reform' itself to make it less fecund you're a fucking moron.

These people have no place in our society and that's the only thing that matters.

[–]VarangianRasputin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He's a CivNat, for a start. He's convinced that all the problems Britain is suffering from stem from Islam, which is brain-dead boomer take. Despite getting chased out of Britain by BLM and having to flee to Spain recently, he still maintains that we 'are all British no matter our skin-colour'.

Not to mention, despite Jewish ran organizations getting him thrown in fucking jail and locked in a cell for 23-hours day, getting starved and getting literal shit pushed through his cell doors, he continues to call any anti-Semites idiots and supports numerous Zionist and Jewish organizations.

He's a fucking idiot essentially. I feel bad for his family, who get targeted by ANTIFA organizations despite having no involvement, but I'd probably be glad if he went and danced on a Spanish motorway. Call that a Fed-Post if you want, I don't care, I just have no sympathy for grifting 'Classical British Liberals' like him, PJW and Sargon.

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    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    No way Nick Griffin actually believed this rubbish, he's portraying Jews as pawns of white elites throughout history lmao...

    Unfortunately, both the subjects of this study and the moronic Jew-baiters who pollute nationalism on the wilder fringes of the worldwide web will share a common interest in trying to portray this study as ‘anti-Semitic’. The former will do so in an attempt to draw attention away from the facts, the latter in order to bolster their own crackpot theories.

    A calm assessment of the facts, however, suggests very strongly that the ultimate driving force for the ‘Clash of Civilisations’ scheme is neo-con, involving a largely WASP (White Anglo-SaxonProtestant) American elite. The sums of money and the behind-the-scenes influence wielded by families such as the Bushes and the Mellons often dwarf the efforts of their Zionist allies. Indeed, with Gentiles at the top of the counter-jihad tree, and at the bottom, the general role of Jews within the whole operation appears to be as a reliable and self-motivated ‘middle management’.

    There is an interesting historical parallel here with mediaeval Europe. It was common practice for Kings and Nobles who were help-bent on screwing taxes and tribute out of their unfortunate subjects to use Jews as tax collectors. By getting individual Jews to do their dirty work, the Christian elite ensured that any resentment or rebellion by the peasantry would be directed against ‘the Jews’, thereby camouflaging their own central role in the exploitation. If things got really out of hand, the peasants would massacre a few communities of Jews –tax-farmers and innocent merchants and their families alike –and then go back to their villages satisfied that they would now be treated more fairly.

    Of course, the ‘Kings’ today don’t wear crowns, but a Dick Cheney as CEO of a giant corporation such as Halliburton controls wealth and hidden power beyond the wildest dreams of a Henry VIII or a Louis XIV. The old trick is still working, with crackpot anti-Semites falling for it hook, line and sinker, making themselves look bigoted and ridiculous by blaming ‘the Jews’, while helping to draw attention from the overall culprits.

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    He's a self-aggrandizing grifter and a Zionist shill who functions to misdirect white working-class angst into a pro Israel/Counter Jihad narrative and away from any kind of racial consciousness. On numerous occasions, he's counter-signalled people further on the right, for example, without knowing any facts, he talked about how awful the UTR protesters at Charlottesville were (this was back when he had Twitter). This is a man you'd think would understand what it's like to be maligned by a biased media from his years on the front-line of activism with the EDL. He's also said he would "fight" us.

    A lot of his apologists and supporters exaggerate his importance in issues like the Paki rape gangs, a claim you'll often see is that he "exposed" them. That's total bullshit. He's never exposed any gang, they were already being prosecuted and the names of the scum were already in the public domain. What the moron has done is risk collapsing their trials by breaking restrictions on reporting, which anyone with a basic understanding of how a common law legal system works would tell you that good defence lawyers could use to argue their defendants were not receiving a fair trial, which could've led to their acquittal or a mistrial, forcing the victims to give their testimony all over again. This is why in UK news outlets like the Mail Online, comments aren't allowed under stories about ongoing criminal trials in the UK.

    This was what Tommy was jailed for, and it quickly became a 'woe is me, donate shekels pls' saga.

    Another thing is, and I'm by no means an optics autist, but Tommy Robinson has the shittiest optics you can imagine. He is everything wrong with "nationalist" movements in the UK. He's obviously not that bright, he has the presence of an intimidating thug, even if you ignore the politics-related stuff, his criminal record his long. This is why absolutely no one takes him seriously and he will never be any kind of a political candidate. He is viewed as a violent chav.

    Don't take me the wrong way here. I am not a purist who only respects people who agree with my views. I can respect what Nigel Farage has achieved, for example. I also like Katie Hopkins, despite her Zionism and other cringe stuff, simply because she never cucks, grovels or counter-signals people further to the right and she is ballsy enough to openly talk about white interests, if in a way that only barely scratches the surface.

    TL;DR - There are just no redeeming features in Tommy Robinson. He grates on me, much like Paul Joseph Watson does. The only figure I despise more is Milo Yiannopoulos.