I made us a Ruqqus.

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[–]bug-in-recovery 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

So which is the main one?

I think we should pick one platform and stick to it.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

This is the main platform right now but ruqqus might eventually be a better place with moderates and leftists that want to debate. Right now saidit is blocking traffic to this sub. That's why we haven't had a lot of new users coming into debate. If saidit growth remains slow and continues to hamstring us it seems silly to stay here. Ruqqus has a healthy meme community as well and seems to have a better trajectory.

[–]bug-in-recovery 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Oh lol, I see you're on both places.

Ruqqus actually looks pretty nice.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah here are some guilds I'm liking so far

https://ruqqus.com/+ClownWorld

https://ruqqus.com/+WakeUpWhitePeople

https://ruqqus.com/+frenworld

https://ruqqus.com/+WatchRedditDie

https://ruqqus.com/+VidsofBlacks

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

also

https://ruqqus.com/+milliondollarextreme

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I would watch out though. Ruqqus is owned by Zionists it appears. All Kek Maga supporters. What happened on Gab.ai? (Gabbai = doing deeds for a synagouge by the way) What happened was that the Zionist owner started to delete people like us in mass, specifically those on the right who didn't adhere to Trump or any political affilation. They did exactly what YouTube did to revisionist history.

I trust saidit is only hiding this sub to allow more people of all colors and creeds to come here. I don't think this sub will ever be memoryholed like newhouse (Zionist owned) reddit did or Gab.ai.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I trust saidit is only hiding this sub to allow more people of all colors and creeds to come here.

That might be true but it shows the admin is willing to sacrifice principles for growth. That sets a bad precedent.

[–]yellow_algebra_31 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Right now saidit is blocking traffic to this sub.

What are they doing? I have been out of the loop about this.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

They blocked this sub and several of our sister subs from appearing in the s/new feed.

[–]yellow_algebra_31 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Wow, when did this happen? Is there a post about this somewhere? Was there a reason given?

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

It happened a few months ago and without notification or warning to mods. No reason was given until I pressed magnora7 a few days ago about it. His answer was something like 'your sub brings down the pyramid of debate' which isn't true at all and is lazy cop out. I was worried that this pyramid of debate thing was going to be used like this.

[–]yellow_algebra_31 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I ended up checking the sub's mod log and I saw the mod action where he changed it there (along with a few other actions he apparently took). Was there already a post about what happened that I missed? Or do you have a link to the convo where you discussed it with him? (Or, if it was a dm, would it be ok to publish it?) I think it's important for people to be able to see how the admin is handling this.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Wow. I'm in shock after looking at this. Am I interpreting this wrong? Is magnora7 going into DAR and making mod decisions for us?? Is that what I'm seeing here? How is this allowed? If this is true I can't imagine any mod would really want to devote their time to set up and moderate communities here on saidit. Why would they if admin is just going to sneak in and undermine the authority of the community? And without any due process or notification? WTF?

Was there already a post about what happened that I missed?

I'm really not sure. I do know that Salo2000 guy had another account that was banned and that's his sockpuppert. Not sure why magnora would unmute him. As mods we should have the right to mute people. Especially ones that are breaking our rules.

paging

/u/WaltzRoommate /u/pcpmasterrace /u/Markimus /u/rightm /u/CatharticApotheosis /u/NiceIce

Am I misinterpreting what's going on here?

I think it's important for people to be able to see how the admin is handling this.

Totally agree. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I will get with my fellow mods and we will chat about this.

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    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    We are going to stay on saidit for now and experiment with ruqqus. If we do make a full move to ruqqus we will pin a post about it. Do you have any thoughts about saidit or ruqqus? We don't want to move everything over to ruqqus and then run into problems over there as well so we are just playing it slow right now.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    As mods we should have the right to mute people. Especially ones that are breaking our rules.

    I don't know about that. I wa sbanned on thedonald for simply asking wuestions about Israel and Zionism. I think you are allowed to ban people if they spam, post stuff that is irrelevant, basically spam, and those who spew ad hominems. I don't see that much here but this basically allows less censorship in the end. Reddit sucked because it allowed mods to ban anyone for anything.

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    It might sound strange but giving mods more power in fact creates more open speech. If mods are abusing their power then new communities will spring up that have a more fair approach to moderating and if users like the new community they will migrate. It's when admin meddles and favors communities or favors particular mods that problems brew.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Why, I can see some subs worth blocking to get a diverse set of people here but not debatetheright.