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[–]yesofcoursenaturally 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No matter who wins in November, I think one thing is likely: the losing side will not consider the win legitimate. And for all purposes, they'll actually believe it and act as if they believe it.

I think the GOP will use an old approach here: 'Well the left may have won but you know what? The difference is that CONSERVATIVES don't WHINE or RIOT when we lose. We respect results!' And I don't think it's going to work this time. It's not new at this point for the left to act as if Republican officials are frauds who don't deserve legal respect. I think the change will be, if they lose, Republicans acting that way.

The twist is that if this is accurate, I'm not sure the elections will go off smoothly anyway. People have talked about the possibility that election results will be delayed for months, and that's possible. Which probably won't help matters, at least as far as 'everything proceeding normally' goes.

That, I think, is the real stick of dynamite. People won't just go "Well we lost, that sucks." They're going to deny that they lost. That won't be mere cope: they're going to believe it, and it's going to color everything they think about politically. Political figures, elected and appointed, will start openly defying people and daring the authorities to step in and force things.

If things get THAT far, it's over. People always say 'Then the military will come in and crush the rebellion!', but it's not going to be like that. It's not easy to crush a rebellion when the rebellion is that legislators ignore laws, or police stop enforcing laws. We're seeing that now. I know a typical reply is 'But if the RIGHT ever did that, they'd crush us!', but I think that's demonstrably false.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

'Well the left may have won but you know what? The difference is that CONSERVATIVES don't WHINE or RIOT when we lose. We respect results!'

Absolutely this and I'll be sickened by it. This is exactly what they'll do and they'll feel so righteous as they do it.

Deep down every conservatives sick fantasy is to be the Captain who solemnly stays aboard a sinking ship.

[–]yesofcoursenaturally 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's the leadership line, and I think it's insincere. It's meant to pacify, and also to signal that they're "one of the good ones", which also means "one of the employable ones".

The base doesn't want this for the most part, which is why they elected an absolute bombthrower in 2015-2016, and Qanon - as gay as it is - is an extremely popular fantasy about Trump suddenly locking up tons of his political opponents for good.