"Fellow Belarusian"

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[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Has modern Russia recognized the terrible crimes against these countries? Why should they forget the not so distant past?

And also they should't forget how the West betrayed them when they needed help.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Would that make you feel better?

Does the average Ukrainian want to acknowledge the crimes of their past or their eager role in helping the Nazis? (BTW I'm not saying they should or I want them to.)

All people have parts of their history they'd like to move past. I find this 'you must apologize for your crimes against me historically' that so many people engage in a very Hebrew affair and it rubs me the wrong way.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ukrainians sided with the Nazis because they had seen their own people dying by the millions due to the Soviet occupation. Unfortunately for them, they didn't manage to gain their independence from the Soviets and probably have the West to "thank" for that. Though Germans would probably have other plans for the future if they had succeeded. The same holds true for the Baltic countries.

Anyway, you can't just commit a genocide and then expect that the people who suffered act as if nothing happened. They have the right to hold their independence instead of becoming again a puppet state for the Russians.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Petty Nationalism is gay. As another commenter stated it's mostly Jews you should be blaming for those atrocities but instead you're bickering with your racial brothers over crimes they can't change and had no involvement in.

How's Ukrainian 'independence' going after the Maidan? What a joke.

[–]asterias 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The role played by Jews in these tragedies is well known, but there are similar tragedies that were not the act of the Jews but of "racial brothers" (Poland, Yugoslavia, Ireland and so on). So there's no reason to abolish the concept of national independence.

Ukraine might not have ended where it could, but this still proves what I said before, that these countries are pressed from all sides and it's not easy for them to maintain their independence.