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[–]TheJamesRocket 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Turks despite the name are not really Turkic. They're mostly Greeks and Armenians mixed in with a lot of Slavic blood due to slavery. The Turkish upper castes were practically white due to breeding with slavic slave girls. Sultan Suleman had red hair and blue eyes.

Thats true of some Turks, but certainly not all. Their ethnicity has changed somewhat over the course of the centurys, due to their disgusting habit of acquiring sex slaves from the Balkans and Crimea. Miscegenation doesn't make them white, though, despite what you claim. Beneath all the miscegenation, Turks are still the same as their filthy ancestors.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

This disgusting habit is nothing unique to them. The mongols did it, as did the Aryans. The Aryans upon conquering a land would essentially takeover the women there. This happened in Brazil, India, Iran and many other places.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Through sex slavery?

[–]TheJamesRocket 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Recently, I've been doing alot of reading about the history of the Balkans during the Middle Ages. I am aghast at the things that happened there, and how little they are talked about. The Ottoman occupation was one of the greatest crimes in the history of mankind. It was even worse than what Genghis Kahn or Tamerlane did.

I feel very sorry for what the Greeks, Romanians, and Slavs had to endure.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I can imagine. Do you have any specifics in mind?

Anatolia used to be Greek.

[–]TheJamesRocket 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I just find it astounding that the Eastern Europeans were doing all the fighting against the Ottomans, while the Western Europeans sat on the sidelines and did jack shit (except for the battle of Vienna). And that very little attention is paid to this whole episode. This was an islamic caliphate that menaced Europe for centurys, and most Westerners have no idea.

I do have a question for you, though. Do you know about the battle of Ankara, when Tamerlane captured Bayezid and defeated the Ottomans? And how he proceeded to slaughter the Turks en masse, causing them to evacuate Anatolia? This was the lowest point ever for the Ottomans; a revolt in occupied Bulgaria and Serbia could have destroyed them for good. Why did the Slavs not seize the opportunity to rise up and overthrow the Ottomans?

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Austrians did a lot of fighting. From 13-16th century, Hungary was the bulwark against Turkey. From 16th to 18th century, Austria held the main line of defense. From the 18th century afterwards, Russia led the charge and practically destroyed the Ottoman Empire single handedly.

Ottoman decline was so rapid that Britain actually intervened to keep it alive and even fought Russia in the Crimean war to save the Turks. The British PM at the time was Disraeli, a '''catholic'''.

Not only did the West not help Austria in its dark times, France actually invaded Germany during the Great Turkish war, at the time the Germans and Poles were beating back the Turks. The Austrians had inflicted several crushing defeats and liberated all of Hungary. Had France not stabbed them in the back, its possible that Serbia and Romania would've been liberated a century ahead of time.

Its always Germans and Slavs saving Europe.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I never heard of that and I'm very happy to learn about it. I know about the siege of baghdad.

[–]TheJamesRocket 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Tamerlane was one of the great conquerors of history, ranking right up there with Genghis Khan and Alexander the Great. He was a nomadic Asian warlord who carved out a vast empire over the course of his military career. Tamerlane got into a dispute with Bayezid, the Ottoman sultan. This eventually lead to them going to war. The Timurids annihilated the Ottomans at the battle of Ankara, and they spread across Anatolia killing Turks for fun. Tamerlane built a pyramid out of their skulls, and put Bayezid in a cage until he died.

I have always wondered what might have happened, if the Bulgarians and Serbs had revolted against the Ottomans at this time. They would have been very hard pressed to keep in control of the situation. It was a missed opportunity, in my opinion.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Tamerlane was one of the great conquerors of history

This guy was a next level savage. During the battle of Delhi he was faced with huge Indian war elephants. He then packed dozens of camels with firewood and set them on fire. The helpless creates ran forward in agony, screaming. The elephants panicked seeing this and rampaged through the Indian lines, shattering them.

He took Delhi and immediately beheaded 50,000 men. Few men in history were this brutal. If there was justice in this world, a modern equivalent of Tamerlane would've set loose on Israel

[–]asterias 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have always wondered what might have happened, if the Bulgarians and Serbs had revolted against the Ottomans at this time. They would have been very hard pressed to keep in control of the situation. It was a missed opportunity, in my opinion

The reason was that they feared of what would happen next. You may want to look into the Batak massacre, which is an example of how the Turks kept them under their rule.