Is Trump the accelerationist candidate now? Democrats threaten secession and civil war if Trump is re-elected

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Leading democarts are planning a secession of the left coast and threatening civil war if Trump is re-elected. Even if these are bluffs, the left will go banana's is Blompf wins in 2020.

The current riots and lootings are a soft coup, meant to ruin Trump's image and lead him to defeat in 2020. If Trump wins again in 2020, I can see antifa and the left going insane. Outright killing, raping and plundering Trump voting locales and the people there might counterattack, leading to full scale civil unrest.

Trump will either respond to that with a gun ban(since he's got a sweet 2nd term) or he'll be forced to send in the military.

Or, the opposite might happen and Soros might simply order the antifa dogs to stand down.

Cernobitch said it the best: Like God parted the red sea and opened a path before Moses, the riots have opened a path for a Trump victory. Sadly, Prince Jared won't lead him through it.

If Trump wants to win, he'll have to crack down decisively on these protests. That means ordering the DoJ to prosecute them and lock them up

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[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Trump has always been accelerationist just by virtue of the other side's overreaction to him. If it weren't for that he'd just be an uneventful republican, another cucked reagan type.

If Trump wants to win, he'll have to crack down decisively on these protests. That means ordering the DoJ to prosecute them and lock them up

Barr refuses to actually do anything, DoJ feds are just playing catch and release rn because of that. I think he can't fire Barr because he might have some dirt on Trump with this Epstein shit

[–]WaltzRoommate 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (22 children)

Trump is the absolute worst kind of accelerationism.

Imagine there's a wasp hive in your living room. Everyone's afraid to go deal with it. Not wanting to look like a coward, most people decide not to even talk about it so that nobody will say they're just too afraid to deal with it.

And then one day walks in Donald, the would-be hero. He says he's gonna go do what nobody else is willing to do. Everyone gets excited he's gonna go fix the problem. Instead though, he kicks the goddamn hive and then goes to go run away while everyone gets stung. Everyone in the room gets some metaphorical equivalent of doxxed, censored, and discriminated against, while this asshole hides in the next room "monitoring the situation."

We're all flipping out. Shit's worse than ever before and it looks like Donald has abandoned the problem... but then he finally returns. Good. He'll fix it right? Nope. He kicks the nest again and then goes off to hide in the next room. And then he does it again an hour later.

Trump is like a military general who tells everyone under his command, "Okay men, tomorrow we attack the enemy. Don't bring weapons though. Just drink a lot of water. Our plan is to piss all over them, which will anger them greatly and trigger the libtards. Once they're good and angry, and completely undamaged, we'll proceed to do absolutely nothing. A lot of you will get shot by the enemy because of this, but we will not fire back. We won't even retreat. We'll just stand there like assholes getting shot. Be sure to bring two full canteens though, because periodically we're gonna start pissing all over the floor while they shoot us."

At what point should I be voting Biden just to get rid of this asshole? Removing Trump wouldn't put the wasps back in their hive. It wouldn't get all of our "soldiers" unshot. However, we have a radically incompetent idiot in charge and sometimes removing the incompetent idiot is a good idea... even if you get absolutely no compensation for the damage he's done. Youtube will not restore censored accounts when Biden is elected, but at least they won't react to the retarded thing Trump does in 2022. It won't unkick the wasp's nest, but at least it'll spare us from the kick Donald would have does in the next hour, had he not been removed from the house.

Trump is the acceleration of anti-white hatred and he's the acceleration of censorship. He's the acceleration of us losing. He does nothing good for us.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

All solid points. If Trump loses it will shatter the normiecon delusions about civic nationalism and American unity. They'll truly see themselves as subject peoples in an occupied land. If he wins, the message they'll get is that Kosher conservatism is the way to go and Blexit is a thing.

Plus Biden's VP is going to be Kamala Harris and she'll be President within a few months of Biden's victory. He's already senile and they'll mercifully resign him after a month or two. Then it will be the most anti whtie regime ever.

Regardless, Trump is going to lose anyway in 2020. Its all but guaranteed

[–]WaltzRoommate 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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[–]Questionablethe Dumpster Arsonist · 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Oh, the wasps nest. What about the hornets nest?

[–]WaltzRoommate 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

What is this QAnon shit? Trump hasn't done literally anything against pedophilia.

He's completely ignored that hornet's nest, though his supporters have spoken about it.

[–]Questionablethe Dumpster Arsonist · 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

"What is this QAnon shit? Trump hasn't done literally anything against pedophilia.

He's completely ignored that hornet's nest, though his supporters have spoken about it."

Nobody said Qanon. And you didn't read top reply did you? Look, I can no more force you to think, than I can force you to read. But you should try it some time. OK?

Now I've got to go look around and see if your post wasn't just a cut and paste. Because there is no way you can be THIS ignorant, while having typed out all of that. ALL OF THIS!

[–]WaltzRoommate 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Literally who cares if pedophile arrest rates are up?

Pedophilia is not an issue of Peter the Pedophile owning fucked up material to masturbate to. It's not even an issue of individual child rapists. Should these people be executed and sent straight to hell? Yes, but it won't solve our problem.

The pedophile problem is the problem underage people being trafficked on Pornhub and the Pornhub problem is people running Pornhub and the content that can be found on it, leading perverts to younger and younger porn stars in increasingly degrading situations. The pedophile problem is also a Hollywood problem. It's an Epstein financial globohomo problem. It's an LGBT "Mentorship is part of gay culture" lolbert problem.

It's all sorts of systemic shit that comes from the top. The man on the street who consumes child porn belongs in Hell, but he's usually some genetically ordinary-ish person who was led down the road to evil by the systemic creation of what Catholics call occasions of sin. It's not just some finite set of nameless faceless pedophiles, for whom the problem will go away once they're gone. Trump has ignored ALL of the big players and just arrested some street rats in ways that are like, good I guess but ultimately don't matter in the grand scheme of things.

[–]AddledCorpse 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree.

Entrapping sick loserish autists doesn't solve the systemic, leftist issue we face

[–]Questionablethe Dumpster Arsonist · 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Literally who cares if pedophile arrest rates are up? Pedophilia is not an issue of Peter the Pedophile owning fucked up material to masturbate to'

Comes out strong throwing a barrage of bizarre straw men. Flailing about, talking of hell and damnation! And I'm out. I can't debate on your level of lunacy, I don't eat paste. Paste is not for eating, don't eat paste!...

[–]WaltzRoommate 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nah, there was a pretty straight forward argument in there and you're intentionally not addressing it. Okay though.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The problem with pedophilia isn't so much that some freak is jacking off to cp in his basement. The real issue is the kidnapping of girls and forced prostitution in Porn sites. Even worse are the blackmail operations being run by Mossad and the CIA on US elites.

Trump has done nothing on the Epstein case and all evidence points to him being a part of this pedo ring. His first wife Ivana was close friends with Ghislaine and went out shopping for girls with her. This was while she was married to Donald. Plus Trump was also a visitor to Epstein's place

[–]AFutureConcern 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Sure, Trump may be no good, but Biden has openly praised (skip to 7:20) the fact that white people are going to become a minority in America, and we shouldn't want immigration to stop. He's about to pick a woke black woman as VP. Biden will support neoliberal capitalism, so the normies won't deem him far-left, but he's probably going to introduce all kinds of anti-white legislation - actively discriminating against whites in government hiring, in policy, in college and in industry (more than is already the case).

Biden is looking like he's going to win, as well, and I'm honestly not looking forward to it.

[–]WaltzRoommate 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I'd prefer a president who states that he's going to screw us and then screws us, than a president who gives liberals plausible deniability that they aren't the ones in charge while we get screwed.

Losing Trump is like that time we lost Rosanne Barr. It's this unhelpful idiotic shit tier person who does not have our interests in mind and for whom the only valuable thing she ever did was make normies a little bit more aware of censorship. Likewise, Trump is every bit as awful as he is fat and the only valuable thing he can do now is go away so that we can at least discuss having no representation and no favorable big names, rather than have some leftist tell us that we're winning and have no right to complain. Honest discourse would be better for us than this fucktard.

[–]AFutureConcern 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I'd prefer a president who states that he's going to screw us and then screws us, than a president who gives liberals plausible deniability that they aren't the ones in charge while we get screwed.

I don't know. Leftists as of late have taken to simply lying about everything. Nationwide riots are "peaceful protests." Armaud Arbery was "just a jogger." Cancel culture "doesn't exist." Critical race theory - "nobody believes it." What's to stop them claiming the right is in power because really Biden is far-right and all those capitalists are in charge?

Losing Trump is like that time we lost Rosanne Barr. It's this unhelpful idiotic shit tier person who does not have our interests in mind and for whom the only valuable thing she ever did was make normies a little bit more aware of censorship. Likewise, Trump is every bit as awful as he is fat and the only valuable thing he can do now is go away so that we can at least discuss having no representation and no favorable big names, rather than have some leftist tell us that we're winning and have no right to complain. Honest discourse would be better for us than this fucktard.

Ugh, you make a good point that he is no good for us.

I'm feeling pretty blackpilled about the election now, nobody is going to save us.

[–]WaltzRoommate 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I don't know. Leftists as of late have taken to simply lying about everything. Nationwide riots are "peaceful protests." Armaud Arbery was "just a jogger." Cancel culture "doesn't exist." Critical race theory - "nobody believes it." What's to stop them claiming the right is in power because really Biden is far-right and all those capitalists are in charge?

The far left is gone, but I do think normal people will see that we're just totally unrepresented. The average white man off the street, and including most leftists, already admit that corporations are against us.

For me, I ask this. "Will more people believe we are unrepresented with Biden or Trump in charge?" It's clearly Trump. Now, if he gave us anything and wasn't an annoying impotent jackass, then I wouldn't base my voting on this question... but he is, so I will. It won't convince everyone of what is obviously true, but it'll do more than Trump does in office.

[–]AFutureConcern 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The far left is gone, but I do think normal people will see that we're just totally unrepresented.

Marxist materialists aren't anywhere to be seen, no. But far-leftists are absolutely gaining power - those leftists in favor of equity and reparations for blacks, those leftists in favor of abolishing the family, and those leftists in favor of "queering" gender and sexuality. These are absolutely far-left positions that have been mainstreamed in short order.

The average white man off the street, and including most leftists, already admit that corporations are against us.

For me, I ask this. "Will more people believe we are unrepresented with Biden or Trump in charge?" It's clearly Trump. Now, if he gave us anything and wasn't an annoying impotent jackass, then I wouldn't base my voting on this question... but he is, so I will. It won't convince everyone of what is obviously true, but it'll do more than Trump does in office.

All good points. I really dread what'll happen if Biden wins, though.

[–]WaltzRoommate 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Marxist materialists aren't anywhere to be seen, no. But far-leftists are absolutely gaining power - those leftists in favor of equity and reparations for blacks, those leftists in favor of abolishing the family, and those leftists in favor of "queering" gender and sexuality. These are absolutely far-left positions that have been mainstreamed in short order.

I didn't mean "gone" as in, "not present." I mean they're too fargone for reason. They're nuts.

All good points. I really dread what'll happen if Biden wins, though.

Hard times are ahead of us, but I don't think Trump will delay them.

[–]AFutureConcern 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't mean "gone" as in, "not present." I mean they're too fargone for reason. They're nuts.

Ah, forgive me, I've been talking to too many leftists.

Hard times are ahead of us, but I don't think Trump will delay them.

Here is a motivating video to accept the hard times ahead.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

really dread what'll happen if Biden wins, though

If you have kids or young siblings, best send them to Europe. Only men with no strings attached should take the ride ahead

[–]wormbloat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even if Trump is all talk, having that talk leading the USA and the GOP matters. It is empowering a whole generational crop of upcoming America First republican leaders. It has beaten back the power that the neocon wing has over the GOP. If Trump is only a one term president the neocon vultures will come swooping back to tell everyone they 'told us so'. They will take full control again, parading out all their kosher candidates and we will only be able to dream of the chance to vote for someone to the right of Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio again.

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    [–]WaltzRoommate 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    That's retard accelerationism.

    There's two kinds of accelerationism.

    There's acceleration of bad things happening to you, which happens when you celebrate the enemy's victories. "They censored us? Yippee! We can't defend ourselves from physical assault anymore? Yay!" At it's absolute best, it's a cope to keep the losing side fighting. At it's worst, it's actively fucking yourself.

    There's also acceleration of the discussion. When Trump got elected, it brought new discussions into the limelight and it began multiple protest movements. It empowered people to speak their mind (or at least duped people into believing they were empowered) and it moved the discussion closer to it's logical consequence.

    People mistake retard accelerationism for accelerationism of the discussion all the time. They think, "Whites can't defend their property? Surely this will foster discussion." It doesn't foster discussion though. It intimidates people into silence while blue pills are spread globally.

    [–]EinmuetigeErhebung 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Looking at it from the outside (non-American) it seems to me that Trump is the only option, and "accelerationism" is a completely irrational stance. No political or social movement has ever succeeded by capitulating to its enemies. If the Communists had succeeded taking power in Germany 1919 instead of the "moderate" Weimar social democrats, a Jewish regime of terror would have been immediately installed and the country would have fallen off a cliff with no prospects for recovery, probably remaining a communist dictatorship until the 90s or even to this date. You have a duty to keep pushing things towards your side. If you let go, it will be MUCH harder later for you to regain control.

    For example, many people seem to dream about a left-wing takeover bringing about "Weimar conditions" and paving the way for a subsequent right-wing putsch. However, this understanding of Weimar is false. They seem to forget that although degeneracy and leftist activism were rampant in the period, right-wing governments were in power for most of the Weimar republic and that the president as well as the institutions were decidedly national-conservative and could be persuaded by Hitler to allow him to become chancellor and enact dictactorial powers. If that weren't the case, and of he hadn't had this help from established institutions, it would have been much harder, if not impossible, for national-socialists to ever gain power.

    [–]arainynightinskyrim 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    Some of our guys think that if Biden wins republicans will move further left thinking that Trump's kosher nationalism is too extreme, democrats on the other hand will tone down their retoric and normie whites will believe that everything is alright and will fall for in a false sense of security, meanwhile if Trump wins democrats are going to become even more insane, the riots we see now are going to look like children playing compared to what we'll see after the election and this is why Trump is considered the accelerationst candidate, his win and leftists reaction to it will force normie whites to see reality.

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I agree with your take. As much I think Trump has been a total failure the best chance we have for a disruption that causes normie to look at dissident ideas will come if Trump wins.

    [–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Problem is to the masses the dissent is represented by Trump. People are stuck in the left/right two party system mentality and don't even realize the whole system is dying. The increasing insanity of the Left may put people off but most see the only other option is to become a Trump supporter and most can't stand him.

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I'm going to push back a bit on that. I was a Bernie bro and part of what forced me into looking at alt right ideas was the horror of supporting Trump. I kept saying there's gotta be something else out there. I would have arrived sooner if I hadn't gotten stuck in libertarianism for a few years.

    So just because Trump is never going to appeal to liberals doesn't mean that they won't start noticing their own party insanity. I just hope keeps pushing them off the edge. We need an extreme political atmosphere to get people to seriously get out of their comfort zone.

    [–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Or, the opposite might happen and Soros might simply order the antifa dogs to stand down.

    You are mistaken if you think this is all organized and under control. Soros does not have control over these people.

    [–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Watch the FrameGame videos with JF about media matters to understand how much under control and how organized all of this is.

    [–]ThePlague 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah, yeah, and the Canadian immigration website crashed on election night 2016. They're all talk, and only the most mild of trolling action.

    [–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yea, that is why think it is funny when I see conservatives thinking that Trump needs to get re-elected to stop the left wing mobs when all of that will get 100X worse if Trump gets re-elected. They will go nuts.