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[–]AFutureConcern[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is not a criticism of third position ideas from the right, it is a criticism of third position ideas from the first position (liberalism). This is more or less to be expected, because the writer may be an anti-egalitarian, but he's definitely a materialist.

I honestly don't see where the liberalism comes in. Stevens has written extensively about how he considers liberalism to be leftist.

He has also written about how, despite being a nihilist, he can "[reject] solely material existence, including social control, to discover that reality has qualitative dimension".

We know that mainstream conservatives are irritating cucks because they cannot accept that equality is nonsense.

Is this why conservatives are irritating? Most criticism I see of conservatism seems to revolve around its inability to defend its own interests, not its stance on equality. This type of presentation trick is used throughout the entire article.

I personally think conservatives are irritating because they refuse to acknowledge biological difference, yes. For example, a common criticism is that they blame black dysfunction on "lack of fathers" and deny any racial component, leading to civic nationalist-type positions. I do agree that a lot of criticism is not along these lines, but then, this statement by Stevens does strike me as simply opinionated for his particular audience; after all, there's a lot of people who don't consider mainstream conservatives to be "irritating cucks."

Leftism is egalitarianism.

No? Egalitarianism is an important concept within leftism. It is not leftism itself.

He expands on why he thinks this is the case here.

ethnic equality (joining together all Whites as one, ignoring ethnic differences)

Who does this? People who promote cooperation between ethnic groups do not reject biological reality, they acknowledge political reality. Intersectional criticism applies just as well to Americans as it does to Russians. It's obvious that different ethnic groups are different, otherwise they wouldn't be different ethnic groups. Does that difference also mean they have to be disunited? Furthermore, this point of view is highly materialist. It considers reality in purely biological terms, leaving no room for cultural, political, intellectual, moral and emotional factors. Is any nationalist more attached to the IQ score of his demographic group rather than its history and traditions?

Yeah, this was one of my criticisms as well. I think he misunderstands the third position to claim that anyone really claims different ethnic groups are equal. But I don't think he's an IQ nationalist.

socialism (denying class and caste, wanting subsidies like free healthcare, welfare, retirement, and public schooling), unions (reward the bad workers as well as the good)

19th century liberal thinking. Socialism and trade unionism are products of the capitalist system and its excessive exploitation and abuse of the traditional loyalty owed by the masses to authority. You can't roll history back. You can only go forward and resolve the problems that have created these movements. The only way to fix that is a sense of solidarity that can only exist in a just society where everyone has his needs met.

As a reactionary, he really does want to roll history back. He expands on this here - "Humanity went wrong, and we can fix this wrong turn by reversing, going back to where we were before we made this mistake, and then zooming forward along that path. Around here, we tend to suggest the four pillars: aristocracy, pan-nationalism, social hierarchy, and transcendence." He places the blame on the enlightenment.

I do tend to agree that rolling history back is a pipe dream; like piecing together a broken vase, or un-cooking a steak. But I can't prove it's impossible - to be honest, most proposed solutions to our predicament look equally implausible.

democracy (the vote of an insane moron is the same as that of a morally-lucid genius),

Later in the article it becomes apparent that the critique of democracy is not a right wing one, but a liberal one instead.

It's also worth mentioning what was left out from the list of "egalitarianism that has to be rejected". For example, universal taxation, the equal right to engage in commerce, amongst other privileges established by liberals in order to destroy the aristocracy. In other words, the intention here is to reject every form of equality that doesn't explicitly benefit the rich.

Maybe it's a little confused, but I'm pretty sure the author is in favor of aristocracy. I don't know if he does actually support those particular liberal privileges.

For too long the far-Right audience has favored anyone who praises all Whites as equal, both among ethnic groups and between social classes, without noticing obvious hatefacts like some “white” ethnic groups being actually highly mixed with Other, and lower classes being dumber than upper classes. Too much of the far-Right is caught up in the Revolutionary narrative of “the rich people are the bad elites and they are our problem.”

Here again there's this conflation of political unity and "egalitarianism". Every ethnic group is different. This is obvious to everyone, including leftists and liberals. This does not mean that cooperation and unity is impossible. It seems to me that the author of this article just wants more useless IQ nationalism whining. If people from Normandy can be politically united with people from Toulouse as Bavarians can be with Brandenburgers, then why should Frenchmen and Germans be in strict opposition?

At the same time, the correlation between low IQ and working class status is 0.49, which is a weak correlation. If you are working class, it's actually slightly more likely that you're "too smart" for your class rather than not.

Are rich people "bad"? As an anti-egalitarian, the author of the article should know that the upper classes always hold the power. Who, then, ushered in this period of political turbulence and cultural and economic decline? Why did they do that? Is Jeff Bezos the model American?

Here, again, I find myself agreeing with you and disagreeing with Stevens. He simply misrepresents the "far-Right audience" in my view. I don't think many people on the right really think all white people are equal.

As for

At the same time, the correlation between low IQ and working class status is 0.49, which is a weak correlation. If you are working class, it's actually slightly more likely that you're "too smart" for your class rather than not.

I don't think this is actually true. Here's an example - 400 people, 200 are "lower class" (class=0) and 200 are "upper class" (class=1). 200 are "low IQ" (int=0) and 200 are "high IQ" (int=1).

lower class upper class
low IQ 149 51
high IQ 51 149

The correlation between class and int here is 0.49, but if you're lower class you're way less likely to be "too smart for your class rather than not".

[–]AFutureConcern[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

White votards elected the people who did this and then failed to repeal it. White votards adopted Leftism to get more people into their shops and businesses. White votards continue to virtue signal for Black Lives Matter and Antifa despite having no idea what they are talking about.

This is where the critique of democracy becomes obviously liberal - it criticises the voters, democracy and mass participation of politics by blaming everything on those factors, completely ignoring the structure of the US electoral system which has been blocking almost every serious attempt for reform over the past two centuries. You don't have to be a democrat to acknowledge that if it had been left up to popular opinion, the USA would never have ended up the way it has. Something like Hart-Cellar is possible only in a "representative" liberal system like the American one. There's also blame placed on the electorate for thoughtlessly falling for propaganda, but never any blame directed towards the powerful interests which promote and produce that propaganda.

I'm siding with you again on this one. The elites are to blame. Sure, I think democracy (at least as it currently exists) is a stupid system because it fails to empower the people, and where it does, they are merely "thoughtlessly falling for propaganda" - but as you point out, that propaganda is produced by the elites.

You people are like mainstream conservatives. You are just conservative-flavored Leftists. No matter how many grossly “racist” things you say, or taboos you break, you still want the current system with its flaws intact, and that will rapidly encounter the same problems. You will defeat yourselves, but you will also defeat the Right, opening the door for the final Leftist takeover.

This is the worst and most ironic example of projection I've seen in my entire life.

Yeah I think you've got a wrong read on this guy. But still, his targeting of the right in this article isn't exactly helping avoid the "final Leftist takeover".

We do not need more analysis; we know what the situation is and how to fix it, which is to adopt gradually more Right-wing leaders, starting with Trump.

If you want to know what type of mindset leads to the creation of articles like this - here you go. This is it. "We don't need more analysis."

Yeah we need more analysis, but we also need more action. I do agree with him that sitting around pontificating doesn't achieve much.

We take baby steps so that at each step, we prove that our plans are working better than crazy Leftism, and then we push further Right. That works

Really? How?

We need a simple plan, and here it is: push Right. Get involved, and push those organizations further Right. Always vote for the furthest Right candidate you can find.

For an anti-egalitarian and anti-democrat this "strategy" of subverting the GOP against the will of its elites and sponsors is both egalitarian and democratic. I am sure the author is completely unaware of the inherent cognitive dissonance.

It's incrementalist. Much how I don't think there's any contradiction in communists infiltrating capitalist corporations to gain wealth and power before they tear the system apart, I don't think there's any contradiction in a neo-feudalist infiltrating democratic institutions to gain power and influence before he reforges the system as he wills. Not to say it'll work, but you've got to work within the confines of the system you're in to some degree, else you'll never achieve anything.

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I only know what I have been presented with and I am not very interested in finding out more. From what I can see, the author opposes very basic social welfare policy that even 19th century hard right conservatives like Bismarck were in favour of. He seems to consider this a corrective and constructive political course of action which already speaks volumes. A lot of writers from the larper variety (NRx, Constitutionalist idolaters and others) follow this pattern of criticising basic, vital social policy under the pretext that it's "subversive" and leads to a gradual and inevitable turn to the left. "Traditionalism" for these people is just the bait they use to get others to endorse their psychopathic socioeconomic policy and dead-end political views. Among the NRx crowd you find these people who promote "aristocracy" conceived as upper middle class and above bourgeois leeches whose job is portrayed as that of "morally" lording their wealth over others and exploiting their labour for scraps. This is basically 19th century liberalism with a thin "traditionalist" coat of paint. Nothing separates their conception of "aristocracy" from people like Jeff Bezos and Mike Bloomberg except lots and lots of word salad. I have a strong suspicion that this guy is the same. At any case the vast majority of his views seem to fall into that category.

The rest of his analysis is also wrong or inaccurate. It doesn't matter what justification he has for his claim that leftism is egalitarianism, because by definition that is not what leftism is. Leftism does not have a claim to everything egalitarian, nor does it only consist in egalitarianism. His understanding of the power process is also very poor. Infiltrating organisations that are hostile to you is extremely unlikely and ineffective. The communists had common values with the liberals, which is why they managed to pull this off to such an extent. The conservatives on the other hand also have common values with the liberals rather than anyone further to the right, which is why this tactic is even worse on the right. Moreover, if you've observed the state of the "communist" movement today, you wouldn't be promoting their tactics as a successful model to be copied. Communism has been completely neutralised and transformed by progressive liberalism and its identity politics. The far left doesn't exist intellectually or organisationally in the West anymore - all of their thinking and planning is done by liberals and they can't even see it. It's over for them.