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[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Bush 2 had shit judgement, but it could feasibly be argued that he considered his actions to be in the best interest of the country. Trump is actively and deliberately weakening our country and its institutions.

[–]antireddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Shit judgement? He's a war criminal. That's like saying Hitler had shit judgement. I mean arguably Hitler had Germany's best interests at heart too. Bush will probably go down as the president that mortally wounded America. I think he did more damage than any president in history, by a comfortable margin.

What "institutions" is Trump weakening? The left has declared war on police ffs. The institution that prevents murder and total anarchy. How does it get worse then that?

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Read my other comments in this thread. Bush may be a war criminal, but his worst scandals are an average tuesday for Trump. Lying to exacerbate conflict in the middle east barely even makes the short list of Trump's worst blows against America.

The left has declared war on police ffs. The institution that prevents murder and total anarchy. How does it get worse then that?

Alt righters don't know shit about the left.

[–]antireddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Bush is directly responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths. His warmongering snowballed across the middle east. His incompetence directly led to 9/11, and its likely his neocon riddled administration intentionally ignored Al Queda in order to let an attack happen they could then use to justify their laundry list of Israel first objectives.

No one was held accountable for those deaths, and the same media propagandists that pushed that war are now pushing this blacklivesmatter scam. Think about that. War criminal zionist propagandists that helped cause hundreds of thousands of deaths are now stoking nationwide riots because over 8 black deaths, almost all of them resisting arrest. Were being lectured daily on our "racism" by media war criminals.

Alt righters don't know shit about the left.

Spare me the left wing/right wing kosher sandwich bullshit. Many alt righters came from the left, before they realized the game was rigged by the same people. They could just as soon be called alt left as alt right. The fact you completely dismiss the magnitude of neocon war crimes shows that your labels are meaningless. I dont see the alt right pushing for more war in the middle east, or trying to start a new cold war with Russia and China. Those are the neocons in left wing clothing you call the left.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Bush is directly responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths.

Bush was a bad president.

War criminal zionist propagandists that helped cause hundreds of thousands of deaths are now stoking nationwide riots because over 8 black deaths,

No, the alt right told you that because they know you'll believe anything that makes the left look bad.

[–]antireddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

HW Bush was merely a bad president. His idiot son was the worst president in history.

No, the alt right told you that because they know you'll believe anything that makes the left look bad.

I saw it myself. The "alt right" doesnt need to make the left look bad. Literally the same news outlets mostly led by the same people that pushed for the Iraq war are pushing this BLM narrative.

But as I already stated, left/right no longer has any real meaning. Jeremy Corbyn was about as solidly left wing as you can get, and he was hounded out of office by a Jewish media and lobbying elite that want to define what "left" means. They largely already won that argument in the US, hence what you call "left" is just a repurposed brand name thats been coopted by what are basically neocons and a wealthy capitalist elite, who also largely own and control the mainstream "right".

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You don't even understand what BLM actually is, you just said you thought people were protesting over 8 black deaths. Think about the fact that you're trying to equate protests against police brutality to the Iraq War because the news reported on both of them. It's so flimsy it could be satire, you obviously just don't like black people.

But as I already stated, left/right no longer has any real meaning.

They're relative terms, I don't care what you think counts as right or left.

[–]antireddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You don't even understand what BLM actually is, you just said you thought people were protesting over 8 black deaths.

No I understand perfectly well what BLM actually is, or what its being used for. The media pushing BLM has as much to do with saving black lives as them pushing the Iraq war had to do with "WMD".

Think about the fact that you're trying to equate protests against police brutality to the Iraq War because the news reported on both of them. It's so flimsy it could be satire, you obviously just don't like black people.

The media didnt just "report" on the Iraq war, they helped cause it. They pushed the narrative that Iraq was a grave threat to Americans and repeated falsehoods about everything from Iraqi-Al Queda connections to Iraq having stockpiles of "WMD" they possibly planned to use on Americans.

Just like the media isnt merely "reporting" on those 8 black deaths. They are pushing a narrative that blacks are the victims of a white conspiracy to kill and oppress them, and like their Iraq claims, there is very little evidence supporting that, hence they arent merely reporting. As for my objection to this media manipulation meaning I "dont like black people", im not quite understanding how those two add up. We know black homicides have skyrocketed since this media narrative began being pushed, so one could logically conclude that the media doesnt like black people(or as I believe simply see them as ends to a means).

They're relative terms, I don't care what you think counts as right or left.

Nor do I personally care what you think, beyond the fact you think what the media pushes, so your ignorance(or intellectual dishonestly) is a good indication of how successful this media manipulation is. Fortunately I dont think most people are as rigid as you. You have been exposed to plenty of evidence contradicting your world view, and have never changed it in the slightest. You are likely incapable of doing so. Most people are, which is why views to the contrary are censored. If they werent afraid of the truth they wouldnt need to censor and punish those who speak it.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm really not rigid in my thinking, I can just tell when somebody is talking out of their ass.

They are pushing a narrative that blacks are the victims of a white conspiracy to kill and oppress them

Another example of your total ignorance of the relevant issues

You have been exposed to plenty of evidence contradicting your world view, and have never changed it in the slightest.

Give me one example. You don't even understand my worldview.