How do you respond to the “Whites deserve whatever harm comes their way” people?

submitted by justjoggin from self.debatealtright

I know this perspective is a sign of an irredeemable person, but when words must be used what words do you choose?

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[–]yesofcoursenaturally 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Enthusiastically agree, and talk about the various ways I'd punish white leftists and Jews for their crimes.

The unspoken assumption with just about anyone making that claim is that 'the kind of white people I have in mind' will be punished. Then again the assumption here is that this is white a ilberal saying it.

If it's anyone else, then bring up their people's past crimes and say they have it coming too.

So basically: with whites saying this, put their necks and those they care about on the visualized chopping block. With non-whites, make them defend their people's past monstrousness.

[–]Nombre27 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

If it's anyone else, then bring up their people's past crimes and say they have it coming too.

Literally this

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Sometimes using their own absurd arguments to deconstruct their statements work well.
Just deny the existence of whites:
"Whites are a social construct"

Make them define a white person and keep denying it. Just be as retarded as they are. It's not a winning argument but its certain to create cognitive dissonance and will likely make them very mad at you for using their own words against them.

Remember while double think is inconsistent and hypocritical when applied by them, it can just as easily be applied with the opposite intention.
Their perspective:
Whites exist when they are bad.
Whites don't exist when they are good.

It can just be turned around:
Whites exist when they are good.
Whites don't exist when they are bad.

They have no problem with using this kind of logic because they're anti-white and arguments or facts don't matter to them.
I have no problem using their kind of logic because I'm pro-white and it exposes the absurdity of their own positions.

It's the equivalent of saying "Mirror". Not a winning argument, but its easy to use with zero effort.

[–]Nombre27 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's a refutation of their argument as fallacious, so it is kind of winning. Unless you mean winning them over. Not sure if that's possible.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, it's kind of winning, but it's still repeating leftist ideas. If anyone has a better response, then people should use it instead. The refutation is more meta-discussion than it refutes their central point, if that makes sense.

[–]UserAetheria 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Basically this. When it comes to a hypothetical ethnostate they love to say things like 'What even is white?' or 'I'm half white half black, will you let me in to the ethnostate?' They attack the definition of white and try to turn it into some vague idea. But when it comes to fucking over whites with things like ending white privilege they know exactly whats white and whats not white. When it comes to affirmative action they know exactly whats black and whats not black.

[–]lithre 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Doesn't really do anything. "White" exists from a social construct perspective (according to them). This means that white people can still be responsible for whatever evil things we supposedly did.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Define white then

[–]justjoggin[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

And that’s how you do it. Wait for the negative comment about whites. They can’t resist.

[–]lithre 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

insert some BS definition about social construct and how it applies to white people, and how hispanics are white and jews are white despite having way different heritage

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are all hispanics white?
Why are these https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/images/library/features/happy-Latino-family-medium.jpg considered white?

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What are the charges that validate our abuse and erasure? Ending slavery? Inviting non-whites into our countries?

[–]Minedwe 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"Fuck off, retard" seems to be an apt response. Or respond with such mirror statements as "jews deserved the Holocaust" or "blacks deserved slavery"

There is no civil response to these people. Don't respond at all. If you for some reason MUST respond, do as I said, because there's no point wasting your energy to construct an argument more complex than that.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Jews deserve whatever harm that comes their way, as do Blacks

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Lmfao you can practice on me.

I'm not "white" and think you fucking dumbfucks deserve your predicament. You handed over your institutions and pretended that biology was a vast right-wing conspiracy for a generation. Enjoy the mess.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hate that I agree with you.

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    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Well, where I'm from we have an insular culture, religion, language and writing. It has protected us from outside influence for millennia. Maybe try returning to your cultural roots instead of pursuing shekels.

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      [–]justjoggin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Correct. I should have clarified.

      [–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      No one in America living was a slave or owned a slave.

      [–]Nombre27 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      You never know with who they're letting in these days.