My Boomer liberal family

submitted by Blackbrownfreestuff from self.debatealtright

There is a lot of talk in the altright about how boomer conservatives are troubling because they are a huge block of the so called conservative population, but their politcal positions are utterly worthless, muh israel, muh taxes, muh prolife, bullshit.

We often forget there is an even more bizarre creation out there, boomer liberals. I have boomer liberals in my family. Their behavior is very unsettling.

They have watched the community they grew up in, and raised their kids in, get completly destroyed by racial minorities and then the remaining areas invaded by gays. They eventually abandoned their community as many rational people would. They are closeted racist homophobic bigots, but they vote democrat and support BLM and the gay agenda with extreme ferocity.

I often wonder what it would take to deprogram them from this religion? I feel like a lot of these people could be beaten and raped by hordes of roving darkies screaming death to whitey, and they would come out of it saying "can you believe those mccloskeys and their guns?"

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[–]TheWorldToCome 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes I have white liberal parents. Literally live in an all white gates community yet say how horrible blacks are treated in the country and are poor because of slavery and prejudice when they go for jobs and such. No amount of facts that I give them can even make a dent in their indoctrination. It really is frustrating as hell trying to talk politics with them to the point I stop because I get legit angry at them. They literally believe anything CNN of MSNBC tells them, that is their entire world view.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How do they feel about the Mccloskey's and their gated community? Do they support "protesters" that break into gated communities and threaten white people?

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (86 children)

I find that some white liberals are more amenable to changing their minds than others. Some are just socialist-minded egalitarians who's worldview can be shattered by using race and IQ/crime stats - or even just basic exposure to real "diversity." That breaks a lot of them

Others however are not opening to changing thier minds and some are so utterly psychologically compromised (leftists) that they cannot even tolerate opposing viewpoints, let alone evidence that contradicts their worldview.

It depends on the person IMO.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (85 children)

Agreed, a lot of us were once liberals, but many of these people seem completely unphased by anything that's happened over the past 2 months that I wonder if they are mentally ill.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (84 children)

Do you ever bring up the basic facts on the Floyd case? Or talk about how many deaths the riots have caused? Black-on-white shootings?

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

you ever bring up the basic facts on the Floyd case?

We all saw him getting choked to death on camera and the doctor the civil rights lawyer hired scientically confirmed, death by choking due to racism. I've never even heard of fentanyl. You're racist.

Or talk about how many deaths the riots have caused?

White people did most of the killing, the blacks were there to protest peacefully. You're racist.

Black-on-white shootings

White people are responsible for just as many shootings, but racial profiling and systemic racism causes more blacks to get arrested. You're racist.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So they're the completely irrational type, you're saying

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This sounds very similar to the conversations I have with my family.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (78 children)

Why would any of those things be relevant? The existence of a criminal is not a good reason to persecute an innocent person, whether their skin is the same color or not.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (77 children)

Why would any of those things be relevant?

How are the basic facts of either the Floyd case or national crime statistics "not relevant," when the ""protests"" were in George Floyd's name, against alleged widespread "police brutality" against blacks in the US?

The existence of a criminal is not a good reason to persecute an innocent person, whether their skin is the same color or not.

This makes no sense. Are you saying George Floyd is "innocent?" Or that he was persecuted because of his skin color? Neither?

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (76 children)

Nobody cares whether or not George Floyd was a good person. He just happened to be the guy that got videotaped being casually murdered by the police.

How are the basic facts of either the Floyd case or national crime statistics "not relevant,"

They're not relevant to egalitarianism because whether or not somebody is a good person has no bearing on the humanity of their racial group.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (74 children)

He just happened to be the guy that got videotaped being casually murdered by the police.

There's no compelling evidence the kneehold is what killed him. He started saying "I can't breathe" before police even apprehended him. He is almost definitely not innocent of ingesting a potentially lethal dose of fentanyl, or attempting to pass counterfeit money, even if you want to say the force used was "excessive"

Even if we take the unfounded and inflammatory claim that Floyd was "murdered by police" as fact, this says nothing about the broader statistics on police-related violence. Blacks are 30% of the people killed by cops, but 40% of cop killers. The statistics would seem to indicate police don't kill blacks enough. Moreover, there are 2.5x as many black-on-white murders as there are white-on-black murders in the US each year. Why aren't whites rioting in the streets in response to all this black-on-white violence?

Not only is this not happening, but the officers who were involved with Floyd have been fired, and are being investigated an potentially tried for murder. When all the evidence is taken together, what more could blacks possibly want? Nothing about the alleged motivations for the riots remotely reflects reality or the truth

They're not relevant to egalitarianism

"Egalitarianism" is not relevant to this discussion. We're talking about the motivations for the protests, which include the circumstances of George Floyd's death and criminality statistics by race. Reality is objectively not "egalitarian" regardless, and the evidence does not support the claims or demands that these ""protestors"" make

whether or not somebody is a good person has no bearing on the humanity of their racial group.

That's just really dumb, sorry. For one, we aren't talking about a single person (George Floyd) being somehow representative of blacks as a whole. We're talking about crime rates in general across groups to assess the validity of BLM/the protestor's claims. Secondly, if one group of humans is more homicidal than another group of humans, what does that say about that group's "humanity?" Nothing. It's a pointless mantra and appeal to emotion

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This a great response, but you are responding to a troll.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe, but I'm starved for debate anyways

[–]Salos10000 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It isn't a troll, we need to debate at any chance to hone our skills at the art if we want any success in politics.It is a white race traitor and our chief enemy.We need to engage with it as much as possible to learn how it thinks, what common arguments it presents and how to refute them.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So far all I have seen are low quality arguments, such as "the facts don't matter". If it's not a troll, I think it's disconnected from the realities of black depravity to a point that makes discussion pointless.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (69 children)

You're not understanding. Police brutality against black people has been a powder keg for decades. George Floyd was the face of the protests, because again, his video was the one that went viral, but it's not about him specifically. Nothing you could say about Floyd would justify the rampant abuse of power in the justice system.

this says nothing about the broader statistics on police-related violence. Blacks are 30% of the people killed by cops, but 40% of cop killers. The statistics would seem to indicate police don't kill blacks enough. Moreover, there are 2.5x as many black-on-white murders as there are white-on-black murders in the US each year. JPG Why aren't whites rioting in the streets in response to all this black-on-white violence?

What the fuck? They are, and you are currently telling them to stop? Poor people and the police don't trust each other. This is about de-escalating the conflict. It's like you're telling people not to protest Iraq because you think the Americans are the real victims.

We're talking about the motivations for the protests, which include the circumstances of George Floyd's death and criminality statistics by race.

The motivation for the protests is a clear pattern of disproportionate use of force against black people by the police. Floyd was the final straw, and there have been plenty more before then and since.

Reality is objectively not "egalitarian" regardless,

That doesn't even make sense. Reality isn't racist either, these are opinions.

We're talking about crime rates in general across groups to assess the validity of BLM/the protestor's claims.

Their claim is that police brutality and racism have a negative impact on the country and it's people. Anything else is incidental.

Nothing. It's a pointless mantra and appeal to emotion

As if you aren't the one trying to frighten people with sweeping generalization

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Police brutality against black people has been a powder keg for decades.

I don't think you understand that just because people have historically got irrationally upset and destroyed things over perceived injustices doesn't mean their grievances actually have merit

rampant abuse of power in the justice system.

Prove it

Poor people and the police don't trust each other.

Race is a better predictor of crime than poverty (gini) is

clear pattern of disproportionate use of force against black people by the police

Prove this "clear pattern" exists. Blacks are arrested at the same rates victimization reports indicate they should be

That doesn't even make sense

It does - depending on you definition, which apears inconsistent. "Egalitarianism" can mean "all races are genetically equal in all respects, if not phenotypically" or "All races should be treated equally under the law". Regardless, both of these are falsified by reality (or are simply not teh actual policy). Criminality rates are not equal across races (just like IQ, etc aren't) and nonwhites are given preferential treatment in AA de jure through policy (and de facto in university admissions and employment). They are also allowed to have race-specific advocacy groups and PACs, something whites are denied

As if you aren't the one trying to frighten people

Are you "frightened" by facts?

with sweeping generalization

Again, naxalting is irrelevant and does not negate the broader effects on society

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Prove it

I doubt you'll actually do the research because if you actually cared you could have poked your head out at any point before now, but here you go anyway.

https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/un-report-on-racial-disparities/

It does - depending on you definition,

I'm talking about belief in a system in which the only second class citizens are criminals.

nonwhites are given preferential treatment in AA de jure through policy (and de facto in university admissions and employment).

AA doesn't say you can only hire nonwhite people, it says you can't only hire white people. Prohibitting you from discriminating against nonwhite people is not discrimination against white people

They are also allowed to have race-specific advocacy groups and PACs, something whites are denied

Those groups push for equality. There are white advocacy groups like Salvation Army, food pantries, methadone clinics, CSRR, etc. You just dismiss them because they don't discriminate against nonwhite people or advocate for white supremacy.

Again, naxalting is irrelevant and does not negate the broader effects on society

Your generalizations are irrelevant and do not negate people's individuality.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (66 children)

Why aren't whites rioting in the streets in response to all this black-on-white violence?

What the fuck? They are, and you are currently telling them to stop?

You should probably read that quote again carefully. White people aren't rioting in the streets over black-on-white violence.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (65 children)

Bruh. Telling America to pull out of Vietnam also saved the Americans. Just because one party is commonly accepted as the aggressor doesn't mean deescalation isn't a lifesaver for both of them.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The facts don't matter, only your feelings do. I think it's clear where you stand, thanks.

[–]Richard_Parker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nothing can reprogram them. They cannot be reasoned with. Their indoctrination has been set decades ago.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You seem to fail to realize that boomers brought us the 1968 madness?

[–]president_camacho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Boomers tend to be easily influenced by traditional mainstream media. For conservatards its FOXNEWS neocon Israel loving bullshit. For libtard boomers its MSNBC Rachel Maddow's neoliberal bullshit. Nearly all of them are trapped in the partisan kosher sandwich from which there is no escape. Their only redeemable trait is that most white boomers left and right usually understand that blacks tend to be trouble, because they grew up before a time when blacks were worshipped by the media, hollywood and advertisers.

They are hopeless on the JQ, but on blacks most of them have no real illusions. Unlike millennials and Zs who have had black sportsballers, rappers and random illiterate ghetto trash from Jerry Springer pounded into their brains from birth, most boomers see black behavior as problematic, but are too concerned with their 401ks and prescription drug plans to rock the boat and oppose the narrative. Its zoomers that have embraced the ridiculous blacks as superhero/victims Jewish narrative forcefed them. They are more likely to be true believers.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Correct, but the phenomenon we see with libtard boomers is they know blacks are serious trouble but signal the opposite. Imagine knowing exactly how dangeroous blacks are, while simultaneously bending over backwards to support BLM and shame whites who don't. What kind of mental illness is that?

In the case of zoomers, many of them are just naive and have no idea about black depravity.

[–]president_camacho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well I definitely dont see Zoomers/millennials as being better. Their collective idiocy, cowardice and witchhunting mob mentality is far worse than anything Boomers ever came up with. They ushered in this woke dystopia. Zoomers are the finished product of a decades long experiment in Jewish brainwashing, hedonism and consumerism.

I have some liberal boomer relatives and acquaintances, and found them to be more open to discussion, with some of them possessing of an actual conscience. Zoomer/millennial liberals are the ones you have to be careful what you say around. They seem to be completely lacking in any moral foundation. These are the people that make tiktok videos doxxing their own parents as wrong thinkers. I'm about ready to write this generation of hedonistic bugmen off.

Hopefully the generations of whites that follow the Zoomer apocalypse can set things right. They will be the generations that experience hard times and will be made hard by them, unlike the psycho snowflakes that came before them.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I definitely dont see Zoomers/millennials as being better.

Agreed, I just hold boomers more accountable because they are older and should know better and got to experience white america. Zoomers grew up in post white america. Zoomer/millenials are the most dangerous though for sure.

[–]president_camacho 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Boomers didnt experience the information explosion offered by the pre censorship internet, before Jews bought up and monopolized everything popular and made themselves its gatekeepers. They were a pre internet generation that had to rely on mainstream media and whatever books they found in a bookstore or library for all their information.

Gen Xer's had one foot in and one out of the internet era, growing up without an internet but experiencing its birth and growth while they were still young, and they seemed to have embraced this new technology to question things that boomers took for granted. Thats why a lot of the early free internet sites and principles Jewish censorship has since destroyed or made forbidden were started or made popular by them.

It was really late millennials and zoomers that have bought into or allowed this creeping censorship craze, and have mostly rejected free thought and a free internet, exchanging it for a corporate/jew controlled thought prison. Its something thats baffled me. Maybe it has to do with being raised with safe spaces, or a world of constant over stimulation free of reflection or uncertainty thats made them so unquestioning, comfortable with censorship and susceptible to propaganda?

[–]meatball4u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Get rid of the capitalism-worshiping careerists in the Republican ranks and you'll find liberal boomers coming to the party. There needs to be electoral reform or a major failure of Republicans to see that change

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You guys just don't understand. Nobody is saying there's no such thing as a black criminal. It's just foolish and cruel to damage other people's livelihood based on assumptions. That makes you the criminal.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ok, thanks for clearing that up.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I have friends that escaped globohomotropolis to a 96% White enclave far away from any city and the wife spends all her time on social media bleating about Black Lives Matter. Deluded.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

This stuff has me conflicted. On one hand, I feel bad for my people who are so duped and still want to see them prosper as fellow kinsman.

On the otherhand, i feel resentment toward them for becoming race traitors and want to see them reap the whirlwind for sowing the wind, by way of contact with the violent mobs they support.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah.

BTW

sowing the wind

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Corrected thanks