How would you deal with Christianity?

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[–]meatball4u 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

One of the more inspiring things I've seen is how people have rallied in r/AgainstDegenerateSubs to counter r/AgainstHateSubreddits. It shows that there is a unifying principle that governs our morality. People just KNOW what is counter to our evolutionary impulse to procreate and civilize the world. I wrote about "generativity" on the old sub and got some positive responses, but a crucial critique is that to reduce our behavior into simple evolutionary terms feels inhuman and clinical. There needs to be art, or metaphor behind it. The failures of the new atheist movement show how such "rational" and "scientific" worldviews are largely impotent.

I feel like going back to some naturalist type of religion would be effective. People understand and cherish the natural world, which is why pagans are so into that sort of aesthetic. If there's anybody out there with an education in this sort of thing (mythology, divinity) we need your expertise!

[–]Hadza 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I've realised that maladapted (unreformed) paganism is a lost cause. Just look at this and tell me you don't feel funny seeing all that modern equipment hidden behind some pagan paraphernalia. A religion that can't really produce what it uses looks a joke and this is coming from someone who actually liked the performance.

[–]meatball4u 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ah, I've seen this before. But this is art performance meant to entertain, not religious practice. There's more spiritual substance to paganism than a concert, I'd leave the play acting out of the religious practice. There's more refined, less primal way to invoke nature's presence in our lives. Lithuanians were the last Europeans to convert to Christianity and there are still ancient traditions practiced there today that are less tacky than the video you linked https://youtu.be/zEwOxdAAjYE?t=567 Here's some Lithuanians practicing pagan traditions and making use of a sword in the ceremony. Can you imagine cucked Christians today mixing spirituality and a sword? https://youtu.be/q62Lhvc-Y1o?t=122

There's much to learn from peoples in Europe who have been trying to maintain Christianity-free spirituality for centuries

[–]Hadza 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But this is art performance meant to entertain, not religious practice.

Obviously, but I decided to choose it because it demonstrates what I meant pretty well.

Thanks for the vids. It still feels like there's quite a bit of disconnect between modernity and... religion in general (to differing extents) and it most definitely will remain there until more people are forced to return to nature (a very likely possibility). Maybe it's just me