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[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Football (or soccer) used to be used to be such a great game, its so boring and dull now that it has lost its meaning as clubs no longer represent their local area and national teams no longer represent their nation. I mean stuff like this exists because the club was tied to local history, the club would have represented either the city itself or a certain demographic within the city. Like in its older days, Barcelona represented Catalan identity and now its just a brand name (the whole reason the Barcelona-Real Madrid rivalry is so big was its Catalanism vs monarchist Spanish nationalism) or how in Scotland Rangers vs Celtic it was Protestants vs Catholics. The commercialization of sport in general has ruined it because the original "tribal" aspect of it was that the teams were representative, now its all about individual athletes or players, their brands, personalities and celebrity status. Not to mention the fact it has allowed football to just become one big bubble where players have excessively high salaries and tickets are far too expensive for the average person.

I've personally given up on sportsball in general for years now, it truly is just bread and circus these days.

[–]Mr_Tee 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I was very passionate about football, but I've been getting older and my passion sunk. Still play football. Yeah, football was local, Arsenal was a team for factory workers etc. You know Athletic Bilbao? They have a policy "only people born in the basque/basque blood are allowed to play".

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Arsenal is the worst I've seen of this, their starting 11 are usually majority non-English nationality and aren't they the first English team who played a full line up with not a single English player. Ye, I heard about Athletic Bilbao which is pretty good actually but I thought they lifted that rule.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I really like Bilbao's policy. Also Barcelona, at least in philosophy though they've been bad at it lately, does try to promote players through their own academy and is a Catalunyan club tied to a region however pozzed the region is. I respect that.

[–]DisgustResponse 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Football was an early red pill for me because it's one of the only modern examples of masculine tribalism.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I remember when Buffon -- probably the best keeper who ever lived -- was playing for Parma ages ago and he chose the number 88 for his jersey and he got a lot of criticism because people assumed it was a Nazi reference. That was pretty funny. Italian football -- like many European countries -- has heaps of hard core right wing aligned fans. It's great.

(Honourable mention to Mark Bosnich the Aussie keeper of Croatian descent who gave the Roman salute and mimicked a Hitler moustache to the fans of the Jewish club Tottenham.)

[–]Mr_Tee 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Buffon said "I don't give a damn", which is a quote attributed to Mussolini.

Honorable mention to the fascist goalkeeper Christian Abbiati of Milan.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is that right? I didn't even remember that. Based Buffon.

[–]Mr_Tee 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh, football. Lazio fans are based, but why? Mussolini merged the Rome clubs (expect Lazio) into one club and that led to a big rivalry. You should check out Torino's BLM photo on twitter, it will give you a laugh! Then there was this anti-racist ape poster but...Italians don't understand the meaning of anti-racism.

[–]Mr_Tee 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Once the "old guard" people like Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo quit I going to quit watching and following football, I want to go back to 2010, good times.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I felt the same way when guys like Baggio, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho retired but then came Messi etc. Hopefully there's be a new player of the beautiful game to follow.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

1922 when?

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

People shouldn't watch sports, no matter how ''based '' it seems. Entertainment sports is a means to channel the ethnocentric energies of men towards these vapid, commercial ends.