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[–]sineavec 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Liberals support political correctness. That is first, about power. Framing the discussion according to your own will, who made them God? Secondly, political correctness limits free thinking and free speech. I think people are capable of much more, they can be more intelligent than liberals.

what you quoted

In that passage, there is: Love, leadership/hierarchy, discipline, group identity, humility/absence of pride, earnestness/sincerity, and knowing the path to get better, to improve. What else do we need?

[–]cybitch[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That's funny you would say that, because there was a time when it was the exact opposite - liberals were for free speech and religious people were clutching pearls over everything anyone said that went against their personal ideology.

Do you think the Bible supports free thinking and free speech?

[–]sineavec 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

According to the Bible, God is the source of all good. Heresy is then an act of intended injury towards God, and so an injury towards all, us. It is an attack on our common ground. An offense to Being, itself. Deliberate lies are the same in that they are an intended injury towards Truth. Deliberate lies are an attack on us. If all went according to this plan and we allowed free speech, we would still be able to understand harmful speech that was intended as an attack on God, the good, and society. We could respond properly and not allow subversion.

When I think of free speech nowadays, it is a tool we can use against political correctness. Political correctness is not heresy, political correctness is used by human actors to entrench their own power and guard against threats to that power. The ADL has perhaps taken the lead on censorship and attacks on free speech. The ADL are bad. They intend to make us sick through political correctness, where as heresy is intended to maintain our health. So, free speech is a more important concept in the modern context.

[–]cybitch[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So by ADL I'm presuming you mean the Anti Defamation League, a pro-Israel organization. I just recently watched a short video on youtube that documented the organizations of American Christians that are also pro-Israel. They were claiming that Jewish people moving to Israel would be necessary to trigger the return of Jesus Christ to Earth. Do you not believe this to be true? It seems strange that so many people in America would promote conspiracy theories about Jewish people while another group actively supports them in their efforts. All Christians believe in the same book, why the differing opinion on Israel and Jewish people?

[–]sineavec 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They were claiming that Jewish people moving to Israel would be necessary to trigger the return of Jesus Christ to Earth. Do you not believe this to be true?

I don't know much about it; I know it's Christian Zionism and there is money behind the movement. I believe in God and living according to how He wants me to live, this includes making use of my strong points and being aware of my weak points.

It seems strange that so many people in America would promote conspiracy theories about Jewish people while another group actively supports them in their efforts.

It's not a conspiracy theory. For instance this article, written by a Jewish journalist in the Times of Israel gloating over his people's control of the U.S.: https://web.archive.org/web/20140125085955/http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/jews-do-control-the-media/

We’re a driven group, and not just in regards to the art world. We have, for example, AIPAC, which was essentially constructed just to drive agenda in Washington DC. And it succeeds admirably. And we brag about it. Again, it’s just what we do. But the funny part is when any anti-Semite or anti-Israel person starts to spout stuff like, “The Jews control the media!” and “The Jews control Washington!” Suddenly we’re up in arms. We create huge campaigns to take these people down. We do what we can to put them out of work. We publish articles. We’ve created entire organizations that exist just to tell everyone that the Jews don’t control nothin’. No, we don’t control the media, we don’t have any more sway in DC than anyone else. No, no, no, we swear: We’re just like everybody else! Does anyone else (who’s not a bigot) see the irony of this? Let’s be honest with ourselves, here, fellow Jews. We do control the media. We’ve got so many dudes up in the executive offices in all the big movie production companies it’s almost obscene. Just about every movie or TV show, whether it be “Tropic Thunder” or “Curb Your Enthusiasm,” is rife with actors, directors, and writers who are Jewish. Did you know that all eight major film studios are run by Jews? But that’s not all. We also control the ads that go on those TV shows. And let’s not forget AIPAC, every anti-Semite’s favorite punching bag. We’re talking an organization that’s practically the equivalent of the Elders of Zion. I’ll never forget when I was involved in Israeli advocacy in college and being at one of the many AIPAC conventions. A man literally stood in front of us and told us that their whole goal was to only work with top-50 school graduate students because they would eventually be the people making changes in the government. Here I am, an idealistic little kid that goes to a bottom 50 school (ASU) who wants to do some grassroots advocacy, and these guys are literally talking about infiltrating the government. Intense.

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All Christians believe in the same book, why the differing opinion on Israel and Jewish people?

Every belief and system of thought becomes corrupted in ways, because it's in the hands of men and they have their own motivations, good or bad. They may use beliefs and others as a means to their own ends, rather an end in itself. A person is an end in itself, with his or her own value. Their value is guaranteed, and if someone says I will use this or that person for my own goals, that person is playing God. That is a clear corruption.

As far as I know concerning the Jews in the Bible, they became the first followers of Christ, Christians. Jews since then, you can consider them in the same way you can consider anyone. Jesus says, "By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit." Jewish influence on gentiles is a bad tree.