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[–]WaltzRoommate 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I haven't read the original study, but I don't understand why most people can't be above average. Virtually all humans have an above average number of arms, for instance. I also don't see why it's taken for granted that in areas like comedy, laymen can't be funnier than comedians. Most people I know or follow online are not comedians but they make me laugh more than comedians do. In fact, I don't watch comedians because I find them to be generally below average at humor.

That being said, I definitely am not a skeptic about the dunning-kruger effect. I just have a few small gripes with certain things about how it's been presented to me. I think the people who've never been in a race argument before, who think they know more than everyone here, and then incorrectly define "heritability" are fine examples.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I've also read and observed another association with being high IQ, which is being more gullible. Particularly at a younger age. Which as you can probably infer implies the opposite for low IQ individuals in which they've developed a defense mechanism against believing anything.

Both vocabulary and question comprehension were positively correlated with generalized trust. Those with the highest vocab scores were 34 percent more likely to trust others than those with the lowest scores, and someone who had a good perceived understanding of the survey questions was 11 percent more likely to trust others than someone with a perceived poor understanding. The correlation stayed strong even when researchers controlled for socio-economic class.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/study-smarter-people-are-more-trusting/284520/

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

and observed

You've noticed this in your own experiences of the world?

[–]SoylentCapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yes. I didn't know I observed it until later on in life when my friend group started taking tests that correlated with high IQ or IQ tests themselves. Compared to the average person I talk to.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You noticed that your friend group was both more gullible/trusting, and measured as having a higher-than-average IQ?

[–]SoylentCapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We were more likely inclined to want to believe an idea or be open to ideas, which when younger in high school manifested as being gullible many times and discovering the idea or proposition was wrong.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What kinds of things did you initially believe and then discover were wrong?

be open to ideas

yeah.... this.

If you know you're dumb and can be tricked it's helpful to be closed to ideas even if you can't explain why. Heck it's helpful anyway, most people can be tricked. Do you think it's cultural? I was actively taught to be open-minded.

Do you think this holds for non-White populations? Maybe especially Jewish populations, I hear it is more common to try to trick people and have it seen as a sign of intelligence to not get tricked... a cultural difference there?

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Dunning-Kruger is related to this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority

In the field of social psychology, illusory superiority is a condition of cognitive bias wherein a person overestimates their own qualities and abilities, in relation to the same qualities and abilities of other people.

It's opposite is illusory inferiority, where intelligent people often doubt themselves and trust others more because they presume them to be on the same level as themselves.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Unrelated but does anyone else just not generally find the stand-up format funny or is it just me? I mean even the ones that aren't glorified political rants, I find the comedian is just stood at the front trying to tell as many "jokes" or "funny moments" as possible and it just comes across as awkward.

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's definitely a Pareto distribution with comedians.