Central Park 911 dog lady charged, facing 1 year in jail for her 911 call

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[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Ok, after reading that:

  • She was allowing her dog off-leash in a place it was illegal to do so
  • He was watching birds there, and started to offer the dog treats after saying the line quoted above
  • She then grabbed her dog and called the cops

She has already had her dog taken from her. That doesn't seem right.

As for the incident:

She shouldn't have had her dog off-leash there.

Was there really a credible threat? I guess I'd have to watch the video but it seems like the threat was pretty clearly solvable by doing what the guy wanted: putting the dog on a leash. If she was scared though she should be able to call the cops for protection, that's what they're there for! It wasn't some random thing, there was an altercation. Is there really evidence that it seemed like a genuine emergency though?

If anything she should be charged for letting her dog off leash. I don't know about him, I don't know that threatening to hurt someone's dog in a context like this is really a crime (is it?), unless the treats he had were actually poisoned.

Who is charging her? What is she being charged for exactly?

I don't really see any evidence that she was particularly "racist" here. I don't see why she was let go of her job. Is this actionable under firing her for being a particular race? I doubt she would have been fired over this if she weren't white.

Do you have a link to Mr. Cooper's video of the incident? What are the laws in NYC regarding filming without consent, especially publishing it?

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Why is he walking around with dog treats in his pocket if he's looking for birds?

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/Op-Ed/2020/06/01/Kyle-Smith-Central-Park-dog-Christian-Amy-Cooper-Covington-racism/stories/202006010003

According to this, he says he carries around the treats specifically to deal with this kind of problem.

News accounts have repeatedly characterized Ms. Cooper as having “threatened” Mr. Cooper. That is the opposite of what happened. We know this because of Mr. Cooper’s helpful Facebook post on the matter, from which I quote:

ME: “Look, if you’re going to do what you want, I’m going to do what I want, but you’re not going to like it.”

HER: “What’s that?”

ME [to the dog]: “Come here, puppy!”

HER: “He won’t come to you.”

ME: “We’ll see about that.” . . . I pull out the dog treats I carry for just such intransigence. I didn’t even get a chance to toss any treats to the pooch before Karen scrambled to grab the dog.

... I didn't catch that he called her "Karen"... that suggests he does hold some anti-White feeling.

(And yeah, as others have pointed out this level of response to a dog being off-leash would definitely be called "Karening" if it were a White woman doing it.)

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Why the fuck was he trying to get her dog away from her? Give me a break. As she said the dog was off leash because they'd closed off the dog walk part, it was a one off improv attempt to get her dog some exercise. If someone tried to take my dad's dog away from him there'd be hell to pay. God damn I just want the White society with sane rules of conduct back. We live in fucking clown world where Blacks are given carte blanche to commit crimes and Whites are penalized for self defense.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

We're gonna have to live with whatever precedent this sets too. What if a white guy had done the same thing the black guy did, and it was a black guy's dog who was offleash like that?

As she said the dog was off leash because they'd closed off the dog walk part, it was a one off improv attempt to get her dog some exercise.

Do you have a source for this?

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What if a white guy had done the same thing the black guy did, and it was a black guy's dog who was offleash like that?

You mean White guy and Black woman? You can be damn sure that Black woman would make a giant stink. The White guy would be charged with the hate crime in that case.

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    [–]SeanieD123 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    He threatened this poor woman. Who knows what that black man would have done to her dog? After all they do commit most of the crime in NY, she could have thought the black man was trying to steal her dog. Perfectly reasonable

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah I agree that would be a problem. I also think it would be a problem if people who genuinely were feeling unsafe weren't able to call 911. I think the case needs to be tried fairly and justly weighing all the evidence. We're going to have to live with whatever decision is decided, either way.