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[–]Erasmus 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's a lot of truth in this. It's a result of a massive multigenerational campaign of our dehumanization, internalized by our own people.

Most whites have never heard their ethnic identity used as anything other than a racial slur. If your whiteness is ever singled out, it's only as a negative thing. Your whole life. Never as a positive. Most white people don't even know anyone of their own ethnicity they could talk to about this, and have internalized their own dehumanization so deeply, they would be ashamed to ask.

We are allowed to be white individuals, because individual human beings are vulnerable, but we are very much not allowed to take pride in a larger group identity, which would give white individuals the strength to push back.

So whites, in a metaphorical sense, really can't feel their body.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Rationalization is a common response to trauma. Your post reminds me of a video I saw a couple of days ago of Peter Tatchell saying that we must respect the opinion of a man who says he was abused as a 9 year old by an older man but 'consented' and therefore we should respect that opinion -- he's a long term apologist for pederasts and abandoning the age of consent laws by the way.

Obviously I'm not comparing the pain of a workout to child abuse but the reaction in humans in these situations is on a pre-rational level. You cope with the situation by telling yourself you're not suffering.

Whites are the same today. Actually realizing the real amount of abuse and trauma we're subjected to would be horriffic so we explain it away and more often than not identify with our abusers. It's racial Stockholm Syndrome.

[–]Salos10000 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So how do we break it?

[–]pimpdaddy_69 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Possibly Moral arguments. Try to convince people that white western society is worth preserving unconditionally or that white people themselves deserve a homeland. Or even that preferring your own people is a good thing.

Arguments using IQ and stuff just make you look like a supremacist xenophobe to normies. They believe that diversity is "good". They want to feel like they're the "good" guy.

There needs to be a shift in the moral understanding of these matters. Modern propaganda has whites believe that everything they've done has come at the expense of everyone else and that nothing of theirs is unique. They've been taught that whites are responsible for all the ills of the world and this has people believe that whites deserve every misfortune imaginable. Nationalism has also been married to the shoah and so no morally conscious white will call themselves a nationalist.

If normies can have the programing undone then they'll revert to normal preferences and start to value their society and themselves as they used to.

Its quite remarkable really how much things have changed in two generations. Whites used to be pretty "based" back then and the "civic" virtues of civnats were real back then.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Very well put. Spencer is correct on this front. What the DR really needs to do is give whites an alternate way of viewing the world in the form of third positionism. Otherwise they'll keep reverting to shades of liberalism.

Call him a fed or gay or what have you, but this man is by far the best political thinker in the alt right and one of the premier political thinkers of this age

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Schools are responsible for this to an extent. Literally everyone who went to it has the understanding history as a linear thing, as a progression, and they think that the more you go through history, the better it gets, and modern times are presented as a pinnacle, and that it will only get better. There is a good reason why Steven Pinker of all people pushes this shit.

Modern European man is uncapable of understanding that people had it better under Ottoman occupation than today.

BLM thing illustrated this the best, you're either with the tyrant or you will essentially lose your livelihood, it is literally the same thing, only thing which we have now is obfuscation of power so you don't even know who the tyrant is and it's easy for for people to miss or mix him.

[–]Salos10000 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

What?How the fuck did people have it better under Ottoman occupation?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The occupator was known, and people were in it together, so they could actually do something.

Sure, some were killed, some changed religion, but how far are you from that?

People in Weimerica are thrown in jail for defending themselves against anti-white filth, or simply for speaking their minds.

Ottomans sure as hell didn't police every single word you've said in private ever.

And worst part, as I've said, is that power is so obfuscated, people don't know who is responsible for their discontent, is it themselves, is it government, is it blacks, is it deep state, Illuminati? If they ever stumble to right answer, they'll get sued, thrown in prison, harassed, etc.

[–]Salos10000 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thousands were killed and you weren't allowed to speak up either, if you did you wouldn't just be thrown in jail you would be executed.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Again, how far are you from that?

[–]Salos10000 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

IDK but in the Ottoman Empire it was from the start.

[–]IRONICALLY_A_NAZI 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Mind control is real.

[–]konoplya 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Their jobs will even make them sit through anti-white presentations and their universities will make them sit through anti-white classes. They will have no power to refuse or resist, but like our friend at the gym, they will have no idea what they are feeling.

a company that i was recently laid off from due to covid1984, just made the remaining employees do a series of "diversity" trainings about white people bad, black people good as well as making them watch some movie titled "i ain't your negro" and saying how there's an overwhelming violence against black people currently... like, i don't know what reality those shitlibs live in, but the overwhelming violence recently is coming from black and the whole woke movement