Something of interest: Somebody's going around Reddit calling the Alt-Right like a CIA psy-op or something

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[–]AFutureConcern 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Mussolini, Adolf Hitler, Julius Evola [...] These are however all people who historically defended capital and the establishment

lol

When we are talking about far right ideas, we are, by definition, talking about ideas which serve to cut off the better off working class base from the left in the service of capital.

So it seems this guy is stuck in the left-right paradigm, thinking it's about economics all the time, and right-wingers are capitalist, so people who are far-right must be uber-capitalist. He thinks there is a giant conspiracy on the far-right to hide the fact that really, they are massive capitalists.

[–]AFutureConcern 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

In fact, he thinks:

Tied in and central to the alt right ideological terrain is [...] the radical belief that uninterrupted capitalism and the domination of the free market in all things.

I mean, wow. I'm probably more right-wing economically than a lot of posters here but there's no way I'd agree to "the domination of the free market in all things". This guy's been watching too much Stefan Molyneux. And even Stefan probably wouldn't agree with this ridiculous statement.

[–]AFutureConcern 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

More lolquotes:

I realise that for many people this is almost taken as a given, everything within capitalism reproduces capitalist ideology, why would the internet be any different?

Communism arose within capitalism, seriously what is this guy smoking. Does he read his own words?

Donald Trump himself has claimed that ‘the radical left are in control of Facebook’. This is of course nonsense [...] Facebook also recently hired former director general of the Israeli ministry of justice Emi Palmor

Not all of them are radical leftists! - some are Israelis.... lmao he's got a point

Gavin Mcinnes has of course appeared on Alex Jone’s Infowars and regularly rubs shoulders with all manner of alt right figures, including the man himself Donald Trump. Along with Trump, his former right and left hand men Steven Bannon and Roger Stone.

He thinks Donald Trump, Steven Bannon and Roger Stone are Alt-Right.

I believe I have shown that very many of the biggest media influences on the Alt Right are steeped in intelligence connections and are funded by the interests of capital. Tommy Robinson [...] Alex Jones [...] Steve Bannon [...] Mike Cernovich [...] Jack Posobiec

What is this crap. Liberal Zionist Tommy Robinson, conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, presidential advisor Steve Bannon, alt-light Mike Cernovich, and news anchor Jack Posobiec - none of these guys are close to being white nationalist. Bannon is probably the closest, the others may be right-wing but half of them get kicked off all the major platforms despite not being Alt-Right at all.

I believe I have shown that all of the alt rights most notorious channels, 4chan, 8chan, and Reddit, have all been the target of manipulation by intelligence agencies, such as those operating out of Eglin Aiforce base. I believe I have possibly shed light on the intentions behind that manipulation, such as in the case of Rushan Abbas, or in the creation of Neo Nazi groups which attack minorities and the left, such as The Base.

Again, correct. Alt-Right spaces are teeming with feds, what's new. It's that this guy is using the fact that feds entrap us with calls to violence as evidence that we are ourselves guided by feds, not the far more obvious conclusion that the feds are trying to stop our movement. There is little hope for this guy to be honest.

Every time I see a leftist rail against the Alt-Right I never see any mention of the clear, sweeping leftward social changes to society that have formed clown world. They are tearing down statues of the founders, blaming white people everywhere and calling them racist, writing white people out of the curriculum, the stage and the screen, discriminating against white people in hiring and in college admissions, they are telling people men are women and women are men, that race doesn't exist (except white people are to blame), that homosexuality, miscegenation, sodomy, pornography are normal and healthy, that we should accept the replacement and destruction of our culture and of our people (but it's not happening but you deserve it). Surely this should get some mention?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

He thinks Donald Trump, Steven Bannon and Roger Stone are Alt-Right.

Everyone needs to watch this in regards to the 'National Populists' Bannon, Orban, Trump, Salvini, Stone, Netanyahu etc. Even back to Ayn Rand, Reagan and Nixon are linked to the same group of Jews (known as Arthur's boys lol) who manufacture the right side of the kosher sandwich.

[–]AFutureConcern 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah it confuses his argument. He even goes off against Zionists at one point. If he could only recognize that it's only the fake right and certain fedposting operations that are created by Feds and Zionists, he would see that the Alt-Right proper is against the system. But to a communist, all fascists and libertarians look the same to him so he sees Zionist influence on the libertarian right and associates it with us.

It's all so tiresome.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think he's trying to make an argument, how could you possibly research these things and be this mixed up unless it's intentional? It's way more likely this is just a shill trying to obscure the dissident right to protect his capitalist donours. There is no other explanation than that this is malicious so it's either a shill or a very motivated volunteer.