The way to win support is to take a page from the left: gaslight to no end

submitted by deAccount from self.debatealtright

The left has won at everything for as long as any living person can remember, the only exception being that the Soviet Union collapsed in '91. They gather mass support by using scummy tactics like gaslighting, this really is the only way to persuade the masses. When someone calls you racist, either call them fragile and never back down from this position, or keep mentioning that they're "insane" or a "conspiracy theorist". The goal is to convince the crowd that's watching, not the leftist. Put as much effort as possible into saying, as often as possible, that their media sources are fraudulent. Providing proof actually hurts you, the key here is to just continue to gaslight. Sure, it's "stopping to their level", but it's either that or our defeat.

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[–]Layman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

What about love and forgiveness?

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

You can't love and forgive someone who is trying to genocide you.

[–]Layman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

why can't you? ever try it? Would you be so kind as to make known the experience?

[–]comments 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

look at what's happening to MENA Christians

[–]Layman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

how?

[–]comments 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

their population is decreasing due to hostility against them from others in the region

[–]Layman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

what does that got to do with the original claim? what firsthand testimony is there?

[–]comments 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I guess I thought it was common knowledge and easily verifiable but I don't have the video I learned it from offhand and I don't want to go look it up. You can look into it if you want to, I may or may not be right or have full info, just passing on what I thought was going on where it seemed relevant.

[–]deAccount[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

For whom?

[–]Layman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Is there any one that fails to deserve such things?

[–]deAccount[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

You're on an obscure webpage that almost nobody knows about, likely for the same reason as me: because the pedophiles on againsthatesubreddits either spammed child porn on a subreddit you liked, or, in my case, my community had been shadow banned ("quarantined") a year and a half ago and remains so to this day.

Whether you think I'm evil for being a white nationalist, is irrelevant. The leftists purged you from the public square of reddit. They want you off their platform just as much as they want me off their platform. On every social media website, there are prolific groups of leftists who constantly try to doxx people they hate, and ruin their lives.

Despite all this, your solution to deal with people who think you belong hanging from a tree, is to be nice to them?

[–]Layman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

why make such assumptions and presumptions? Who is talking about being nice? I believe, if anything, be honorable. Was a claim made that love and forgiveness was solution or is it brought up as consideration? Does any one fail to deserve love and forgiveness? Could it be they know not what they do?

[–]deAccount[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I can understand that being honorable would be a more well-received option than deceit. I was specifically looking into why they're so successful, but thinking of trying to emulate them makes me ill. Upon further speculation, these intellectually dishonest tactics would seem to be second nature to them, so you may be right that they don't know what they do.

That said, the dissident right definitely doesn't do enough to try and win, that some Israel-first president was sworn into office can't be considered a victory. I just watched John Doyle talk about peacefully putting the neoconservatives to route and electing real conservatives. I think most neocons really do have similar interests to the alt right, they just care way too much about being called raycis by militant leftists, and try to argue within their framework.

[–]Layman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What is there to win?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Unfortunately, what is the point of honour when the people are no longer honourable. Honour is a concept that belongs in high-trust collectivistic societies, not atomised individualistic hedonist dystopias. Most people on DR were awoken by edgy meme culture and Youtube e-celebs, not being provided facts and logics through respectful debate.

[–]comments 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

sad but accurate. also by:

  • being kicked out of the left coalition (white women, non-pro-trans LGBT, liberal white men, etc)
  • undeniable attacks against whites that people just couldn't ignore anymore (migrant crisis in europe)
  • hostility and abuse instead of love and acceptance from the left (especially trans)
  • "antiracism is a code word for antiwhite" and associated phrases were pretty good and remain accurate imo.

[–]Layman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If a point did exist could it be reputation? What is more natural than staying in honor? If honor is affected by external source may be it was never written in the heart to begin with.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The goal is to convince the crowd that's watching, not the leftist

This I absolutely agree with but I think the solution you propose is a very small aspect of winning the monumental battle we have in front of us.

This video deals with some possible solutions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcIsKpvcqO8

[–]deAccount[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I was just watching that video. The guy strikes me as somewhat of a neocon, but that isn't what matters right now. He appears to oppose the destruction of the West, I think he has enough in common with us, like Devon Stack said unity among us is of utmost importance.

That said, I'm also far beyond the point at which I can be a good goy at some Jewish anti-white company, and honestly, I don't want to work for people who despise me with a genocidal passion. I'm in college for database administration, I don't know if there are other companies I could eventually work for that are run by normal people. I'm really feeling like I'm becoming a disenfranchised young man with nothing to lose. Fighting on the front line is what I'd love to do, but there doesn't seem to be much I'm capable of doing.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah. His civic nationalism/neocon is just a schtick. He's pretty based. He's just trying to do the high optics thing. His video he released earlier this week was really good and Anglin wrote an article on it as well. I'm pretty sure he's /ourguy/.

I like your spirit and I hope that you can find a good job in database admin. Make sure you pick a back more trade oriented skill like welding or carpentry that you wouldn't mind falling back on. I predict that the jews are going to go REAL heavy on the lawfare and doxxing as this entire culture war goes hot. Charlottesville lawsuits are going to look like a walk in the park compared to what's to come. Stay strong and humble and don't get in debt. You're always welcome to drop me a PM if you ever need college advice. I'm in my 30's now and have had several career changes so I have a little experience with this fake and gay economy we are dealing with.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Aren't there plenty of jobs in DBA that can be done remotely or you can freelance?