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        [–]Node 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

        /u/TheAmeliaMay

        Got a live one here for you. ⬆ https://saidit.net/user/Spoinurpers ⬆ (click parent)

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        Thx

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        😮

        [–]blowininthewind 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

        afaik this is done at a very high cost and is really kinda pointless. to withstand attacks with quantum power you need to have something one order of magnitude less but no lesser, which is still a great cost at traditional machines. also, a quantum computer level adversary will be able to do a million other things against you before they even consider hijacking your email.

        [–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

        I wonder about the same things. I also wonder if the theoretical threat of quantum computing is over-hyped and the world's data keeps exploding exponentially.

        If we don't resist, what's left but to roll over, expose our bellies, and beg for mercy. No point in making it easy for them.

        [–]blowininthewind 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

        eh, not sure if this is the best thing to sell but if you are faced with an adversary beyond quantum supermacy, your email is pretty much doomed.

        [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        Allegedly.

        If their theoretical quantum magic actually does what they claim as well as they claim. The rest of their networks and storage and gear also need to be proficient without bottlenecks to slow it down. They can't even get electricity to Texas, allegedly. Microsoft can't even prevent viruses or make vaccines that kill zero people.

        "Experts" have lied to us before and will again.

        [–]blowininthewind 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        think of it this way, an adversary with a quantum computer can mine more than half of the entire bitcoin community combined so they can control a currency. if you're up against someone like that, the email is the last thing you should worry about.

        [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        I understand what quantum computing promises - but will it ever deliver, or is it just vaporware hype (and fear porn)?

        We need to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

        We also can't live in fear of theoretical threats - much like this alleged COVID threat and everyone's a potential carrier.

        How would you prepare for the great omnipotent surveillance state run by quantum A.I.?

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        I also wonder if the theoretical threat of quantum computing is over-hyped

        Being able to defeat any existing encryption is fairly powerful. 56K bitcoin might be a bit overpriced when a quantum computer could have its way with the addresses and blockchain. Much of the worlds financial system might be a toy in the hands of a quantum computer.

        It doesn't appear we're there yet, but the MIC doesn't exactly share its secrets with the masses.

        [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        In the hands of the wrong people it could be more devastating than nukes. Either it's science fiction hype or not. Either way it's their goal and the race is on. First one to cross the line wins.

        The MIC has also been known to overplay their hand and/or hype stuff up. We live in a panopticon and they're tracking and tracing everything, allegedly, but they haven't fully utilized it - yet. We're all supposed to be submissive locked-down mask-wearing debt-slaves but I won't change for them.

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        Every system needs some nogoodniks to use as examples of what not to be. Given that you're probably just as not a member of the 1300 people who own 94% of the worlds wealth as me, the future is looking pretty dystopian.

        [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        There are nogoodniks and there are "nogoodniks" and there are those calling others nogoodniks who are likely nogoodniks too.

        I concur. Worse and worse, yet the hope shines brighter and brighter. There will be casualties. I don't know how but I would like to see the 1% get their fair share too.

        [–]ExBootlicker 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        Great idea - but their alternative to mining the coin is :

        "The CloudCoins were spent into existence to support the team of administrators, developers and other specialists needed to create the wallet software to interact with the RAIDA."

        [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Their own fiat.