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[–]magnora7[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Look at this address book!

Mysteriously missing are the Clintons. Bill supposedly went there 26 times and Hillary knew him well too.

Which perhaps brings forward the theory this address book is a fake, to get ahead of the real news. The 26 number is known because the flight logs for Epstein's plane the "Lolita Express" are available.

Also Ivanka Trump is in the address book.

Trump I guess knew the guy as well, but banned him from Mar A Lago because he was harassing women like 15 years ago.

Very huge story. Could shake up a lot of things, potentially. Epstein is obviously at the core of this huge network that does these illicit things, probably with the purpose to entrap powerful people for blackmail purposes, as he said he video-taped everything everyone ever did on his private island.

[–]FormosaOolong 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Trump I guess knew the guy as well, but banned him from Mar A Lago because he was harassing women like 15 years ago

Woah, I had somehow missed that little factoid--the irony is almost overwhelming...

[–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Or Trump has some personal scruples.

I'm guessing Epstein had nothing on Trump, or he'd be free.

Actually, I doubt anyone has much on Trump, cause they threw everything they had at him.

Against all odds, he's still standing...

[–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah this whole situation is genuinely bizarre.

[–]Snow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Someone in the book want to use this "partly correct" book to ruin others.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah I would not be surprised if this was indeed a "limited hangout" of sorts, not telling the full story intentionally

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If this is not the fact ,how could you read this part of the book?

[–]HeyImSancho 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Awesome stuff!

[–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I really have to wonder what the result of all this will be.

I just found out that one of the guys who let off Epstein in 2007 is now Trump's head of the Department of Labor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Acosta

In 2007–2008, as U.S. Attorney, Acosta approved a plea deal that required Jeffrey Epstein to plead guilty to state charges of prostitution, register as a sex offender and pay restitution to victims as part of a federal non-prosecution agreement.[8] The plea deal has been the subject of criticism

So I really have to wonder how genuinely this is going to be prosecuted, vs used as a political tool. I'm not sure if they can get away with just giving him a slap on the wrist this time around, this case may be too high-profile now.

[–]HeyImSancho 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I would like to see the media quit referring to him in regards to 'Epstein the billionaire', or any phrase like that; it should be, 'the pimp Epstein', or perhaps, 'the pedophile Epstein', or even 'felon Epstein'.

The media really does have kid gloves with people who've got money, the rest of us, seem to just have a nasty mugshot on tv, lol.

[–]magnora7[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

'Epstein the billionaire'

I saw some newspaper, I think it was the NYT or Bloomberg, I forget, that was calling him a billionaire yesterday, but then changed it to multi-millionaire, to soften the blow, and not build up anti-billionaire sentiment. Wouldn't want that, now would we.

[–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Heavens no, mustn't get the hoi polloi all riled up now, dear.

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's a great point as far as calling out the billionaires; yet when seeing the rampant homelessness, and actual strife in our day, and age; I'd hope many would've seen those getting richer, and richer to blame. I mean, my god, at this point, it's like a Dark disney cartoon, or looney toons show; in regards to the fat rich man eating happily not a desire unfulfilled, while so many are literally just trying to have food in their literal belly.

I say burn them all! ALL! why? Speak up! Speak up! We're all on a carnal plane of flesh, and blood. We should all be able to smile.

~and I'm pro Freedom, and pro property, but I'll tell you, always look who benefits. They can speak up, they can fight the hard battle; no matter the consequences if they had a shred of common care for their fellow human being. To hell with this side, that side, this 'approved' cause, or that 'sanctioned' action, let's deal with honoring the fact we all reflect something unknown(that being why we even exist, and yet SEE one another)!

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

[–]Ash 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

None of the people on that list are a surprise. Most/all of them are dodgy as fuck but why are so many politicians and socialites from all sides are missing? Why are dems, reps, libs, British Politicians, Wall street, bankers, and the royals involved in an international sex trafficking scandal (cough..cough Prince Andrew and members of the British parliament, European Upper classes, disgusting Brussel, perverted Saudi/Arab royalty) are missing from this list? It goes way deeper...and will shake our systems if the truth will ever come out.-Got some 'news' for you-it will never come out.

What about the (former) underaged kid witnesses, journalists and people that investigated that pit of shit just disappearing, or any person 'accused' not getting investigated or arrested?! The biggest political scandals (sexring Westminster, Torture house in Brussels-the home of European Politicians (would love to interview some prostitutes, call girls and child prostitutes from this fucked up'd, ugly city) with European elites involved, American politicians from both corners being besties with a child rapist, pedo trafficker just disappearing?

Epstein is just a tiny scratch at the top of a mountain. Do you remember the Belgium pervert that raped, kidnapped, murdered and sacrificed children. His infamous torture chamber? I remember his story and reading that he was well connected to the Belgian and European Elites years ago. They were all part of a sex ring, involving the richest, aristocrats, politicians and fucks from Brussel- raping, torturing and murdering children.

I'm disgusted that pedos, the most disgusting people on planet earth have/had a place on SaidIt and dominated our front page several days ago..I know what SaidIt is all about but can't tolerate sick fucks discussing their perversions and fantasies about the most vulnerable -a group we all used to belong to (innocent babies and kids) on this site. Don't get me started with zoophilist (Sp?). Ever saw the collapsed anus of a cat, a goat, or a baby that survived being raped by grown ass men and wasn't able to walk at 4 years old at (that time) because they did too much physical damage to her??

I'm all for free speech but I see SaidIt going down that rabbit hole and getting closer to 4/7/8 chan and voat retards, in the name of 'Mu free peach!'. A harbor for 'people' that should be purged from the face of the earth. I don't mind discussing pedophilia and letting them talk. I love Kevin Bacon for taking the risk as an established Hollywood actor making a great, underrated movie that is from the viewpoint of a pedophile man. He offers the gen pop a different view of men that 'suffer' from pedophilia, 'The Woodsman'-https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361127/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1 I'd also look up Club 13/7 or 9 whatever their name is, and got to learn about their arguments. Still far away from harboring human dreck and letting them have their own subs on here were they can 'normalize' their sick views, make friends and make contacts to exchange their perverted porn. Only my opinion and 2 cents. I don't expect you to agree with me and this is one of the reasons what makes SaidIt great.

But let's get back on track: That Belgium guy and his pedo sex ring was linked to a place that is famous for being outed to cater to a perverted Elite cult... I'll stop now, this thread is not about conspiracies or other related topics. I'm not tripping and often dismiss so called conspiracies, but this was one of the strongest case of our elites being linked to a degenerate cult.

Epstein's powerful friends made it all go away or paid him for not coming forward and spilling the beans all those years. He might commit 'suicide' in prison with a bullet to the back of his head now that the general public is finally in the know.

We will never know about the depths and his links to this worldwide cult, the media won't look any further. What happened to the Belgium torture estate that was/is connected to the elites? What happened to the British Government sex scandal involving Westminster and the story went nowhere? What happened to the 'fake' news involving Clinton, Trump, Price Phillip and Saudi royalty and the story went nowhere. What happened to the brave men and women daring to investigate and report? Are those people still amongst us?

Trust me, Epstein is just the tip of the iceberg and he will take the fall.

My prediction: Epstein will take the fall and won't talk or will get suicided. He's got too much shit on all of them. Follow the links and connect the dots and you will be in a rabbit hole that wants you to commit suicide for the horrors you have to face. Those bastards will continue their business as usual after they are done with Epstein.

u/FormosaOolong you might be interested in this post and I know that your 2 Cents will be more literate than me 'gibberish', speaking of pyramid, and have more potential to add to the discussion.

[–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I think you're right it's missing a lot of names. It says it's from 2004-2005 right at the start, so it's also 15 years out of date.

I'll stop now, this thread is not about conspiracies

I mean that's literally what this is, it's a conspiracy, by the legal definition of the word. I don't know how to talk about this without thinking about powerful people conspiring behind closed doors, because that's exactly what happened.

What happened to the Belgium torture estate that was/is connected to the elites? What happened to the British Government sex scandal involving Westminster and the story went nowhere? What happened to the 'fake' news involving Clinton, Trump, Price Phillip and Saudi royalty and the story went nowhere. What happened to the brave men and women daring to investigate and report? Are those people still amongst us?

I've never heard of any of these things. I'm interested to hear more though. You're absolutely right that our paid corporate media isn't going to inform us of these injustices.

Trust me, Epstein is just the tip of the iceberg and he will take the fall.

My prediction: Epstein will take the fall and won't talk or will get suicided. He's got too much shit on all of them. Follow the links and connect the dots and you will be in a rabbit hole that wants you to commit suicide for the horrors you have to face. Those bastards will continue their business as usual after they are done with Epstein.

I could see those results happening as well. Good analysis. I could also see it be used as a political tool to remove people from the opposing party... I wouldn't be surprised if this brings down 20 politicians who are mostly of the same party. Not sure which party has the power though. I think that's still being decided. I think that's exactly why this is so scary. This basically fractures the deep state, potentially, and may force people to choose sides, as both sides try to use this as a legal weapon against the other, for political purposes.

But any way this goes, there will be many guilty people who will get away scot-free. And only some small percentage of the guilty will get thrown under the bus, as scapegoats. Then they will pretend the issue is entirely resolved, and it will fall from public view, but continue in the background.

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    [–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Interesting, thanks for taking the time to share. It seems a lot of that stuff was spun in to the "Satanic Panic" of the 90s, which partially diffused the issue by over-broadening it. Maybe that was just in the US though. Have you seen any of that dutch whistleblower's interview?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9mMdUGcRRw

    [–]Ash 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I didn't but will see it now.

    [–]Ash 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    u/magnora7 you already replied when I was still editing and adding to my original post. It was badly written and full of mistakes. I had to edit that bitch. while correcting my spelling I had to add new things.

    I also send you a response to your reply but decided to delete it because it was a pile of hot shit and I can do better.

    I hope my next answer to your post will be better with some links. But for starters a small overview: Europe was rocked in the late 90's by the Dutroux scandal. A pedophile that was later linked to the highest classes and elites in Belgium. The estate of the Belgium aristocratic family of XX-(don't recall their name right now) was used by the elite and rich to engage in sex parties involving children. That was back then. I heard about Prince Phillip and other high class creeps, linked with Epstein several years ago. Around this time I first heard about a sex trafficking ring scandal that involved Westminster-a district similar to Washington DC where all the politicians, moneymakers, big business, the elites of London meet and shape the politics of tomorrow. That was way before Pizzagate in the 80's and main stream media reported about it. But it got buried, like it never happened. This was around the early 'noughties'.

    When I started to response to your post I googled the basics to be on the safe side and was shocked for the lack of exposure. I feel mental or phantazising about all that shit. Duck duck Go and Google didn't give me any links or coverage from respectable news sites. The only ones I could find where from the Daily- I can't stand them and some unknown websites. Both of them weren't enough to back up my claims I made in my original posts. I have to dig deeper. I repeated that I'm not crazy and clearly remember the news coverage of those scandals (Dutroux and Westminster) and now I have difficulties to find respectable sources. It is like they deleted part of the internet.

    One of the things I'm good at is remembering certain information. I can often tell on which side of a book (Left or right) you can find information. I remember details and would call people out for xxvvdg maybe being xxvvgd-(not kidding I recently had to go through a 3 hour long test with stupid tasks like this) I also remember that scandal because I went to the same university, at the same time (class of 2012) the daughter of one of the accused went to. I was disgusted and felt sorry for her, knowing that her daddy is friends with Epstein and most likely a pedo. I'm not here for boasting about my abilities-still a sorry fuck at the end of the day but to prove that those things happened. This is not shit I would make up or a case of false memory despite the lack of links or newspaper articles I have read from the mid 90's until recent years. They news were also from 'legit' or mainstream media. I will check YouTube next-wish me luck.

    Only for now: https://www.winterwatch.net/2018/05/is-belgiums-dutroux-pedophile-child-rape-affair-a-road-map-for-pedogate-and-the-smiley-face-murders/ "Our recent coverage of the Smiley Face Killings (SFK) leads us to believe there are striking similarities to the Dutroux Affair of 1996 in Belgium. The pedophilia case of former Speaker Dennis Hastert points to the certainty that compromised individuals are actively recruited into positions of power — particularly within the deep-state intelligence, law enforcement, judiciary and media. Convicted pedo Keith Harding rose to be the Worshipful Master and most senior member of the Mercurius Lodge, known as the Spies Lodge in the U.K."

    And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_paedophile_dossier "A dossier on paedophiles allegedly associated with the British government was assembled by the British Member of Parliament Geoffrey Dickens, who handed it to the then-Home Secretary, Leon Brittan, in 1984. The whereabouts of the dossier is unknown, along with other files on organised child abuse that had been held by the Home Office."

    Furthermore: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jul/06/child-abuse-coverup-1980s-lord-tebbit "Ex-Thatcher minister says politicians' instincts were to protect 'the system' as it emerged that 114 more documents were lost"

    And from the lowest hanging fruit: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4136536/Former-child-sex-slave-sold-Belgian-recalls-abuse.html "A former child sex slave sold into a Belgian aristocratic paedophile ring where boys and girls were raped, tortured and murdered has revealed the horrors of her five years of abuse."

    Those links are not my resources and just my first google and DuckDuckGo results. Why do I feel like a crazy person calling wolf when everyone in the village confirmed some years ago that 'The Wolf' is real, that he already stole some of our kids but acting now like he never existed?

    Your last paragraph kills me because it's so true and makes me angry. I want those pigs to be hanged from the highest trees: "But any way this goes, there will be many guilty people who will get away scot-free. And only some small percentage of the guilty will get thrown under the bus, as scapegoats. Then they will pretend the issue is entirely resolved, and it will fall from public view, but continue in the background."

    [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    My, you're long-winded.

    [–]Ash 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Yes, I am. I am trying to change it. From bullshiting to straight. Btw is 'By,....' a thing now?

    I've always been like this, long winded and a person of many words...Part of my personality that is difficult to change but I'm trying.

    Saidit is great to keep me in check-with The Pyramid system and people like you calling me out for it, and me not feeling too bad or intimidated that I would stop posting at all and trying to explain and justify myself over and over again. Long doesn't mean quality. I have already deleted a post of mine in this thread because it was too much gibberish and...fuck, I'm doing it again...

    What are your thoughts about Ep being finally arrested? And the conspiracies?

    Edited and deleted parts of my post for too much bullshit and irrelevant stuff.

    [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Your post went off the tracks when you brought in the 5th grade anecdote. Stick to the subject and avoid pulling in information that doesn't pertain to it.

    [–]Ash 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I know that going off the tracks wasn't a good idea.

    I appreciate your input and trying to do better in the future.

    Thanks.