A rare 1st hand account of the Clinton-Haitian Gold Mining corruption scandal. A comment in an article on a mining blog was written by a geologist, who worked on these mines in Haiti, who explains how much of scam the Clintons ran in Haiti

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[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Are you archiving these articles? Like with an app?

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

nope

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

What's your motivation for finding and sharing the archives?

I'd assumed with a JavaScript click or something they'd be archived and feed you a link. But you said, "nope".

So you're finding them and re-sharing?

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

the archive links usually come with the original link and sometimes, when i think its important info, i generate one myself manually. i am not trying to find them, archive.is will inform about the existence of one.

censorship is getting worse and often damning info is scrubbed in an hour. some sites are really pushing for archive-links-only posts, because they are worried about tracking, data mining, giving clicks and ad revenue to unsavory sites and, again, censorship.

archived pages can probably be considered sanitized. i am lazy and i still mostly post original links, even when i am being attacked for it though. idgaf, because i think people should secure their systems no matter what.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

So you browse archive.is?

I take it you trust archive.is?

The Internet Archive is okay, but they don't grab everything. I heard in the last year or two of something getting scrubbed there. I don't recall what and I don't recall the source, but I do recall that it'd be sad if true, however not surprising. I'd been there a dozen years ago. It's in the Presidio in San Francisco, a former military base. Nice folks work there, including a couple of good neighbours. Didn't meet the management.

Attacked? Like for pasting a link to a bad site? (ie. Facebook)

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

no, i dont browse, it. just put a page in there sometimes. i browse the internet.

i also remember somethings were scrubbed, but mostly thing are there.

no, i was attacked for posting unarchived links.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Really? By who? Was it /u/magnora7 or /u/d3rr ? There's something funny looking about their names...

I don't recall coming across this archival issue.

Is there a way that we (and by we I mean the admins) scrape and archive pages and maybe videos? I feel like I asked before but forgot. Or failing 100% control, install an auto-archive script that would ping the Archive.fo, Archive.is, and InternetArchive to archive that article, then embed a link in the post? Maybe there's an IPFS server somewhere - or maybe we can create a DIY_FreeNAS_IPFS sub for everyone to build their own decentra-server and make it happen ourselves. And if we archive SaidIt too, whether via RSS or weekly zips like WikiSpooks (but additive would be better than in its entirety), as well as the Git code, and there'd be less need for a Fediverse adoption. Centralized SaidIt (and admins) with decentralized backups that can be resurrected under new domains if necessary. Add a wiki and peertube and it'd be perfect.

I feel like a genius, but I suspect it may be too much caffeine hitting me hard and fast.

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I feel like a genius, but I suspect it may be too much caffeine hitting me hard and fast.

:-)

s/downthememoryhole is a beginning of something like that.

i also think there is a lot of noise out there and its unnecessary to put excess weight on these archival services. and an in house solution is costly even at this scale we see saidit at today. now imagine reddit. its like mirroring the net. but im no expert

btw that attacking was on a diff site !

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Protocol Labs develops IPFS as well as Filecoin - intended to support the sustainability of IPFS servers. Holochain has the same idea - decentralize and support.

I don't know how to compete and expect income when it's all "free" in the cloud. Freedom ain't free.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The traditional rEddit archive.org approach is to have a reddit bot comment with a properly formed archive.org link on each post. But then the page isn't actually archived until a user clicks the link and gets their ip recorded.

We could do this too, but maybe there's a better approach for SaidIt. I also worry that there's way too much reliance on this single organization, archive.org.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Reddit and Archive.org are separate, right? And use scripts to cross-access/post?

Start a decentralized archive/database with IPFS or something. Zip web pages into a single file to make it easier with a single hash, but still searchable. Text and images only to keep it smaller so everyone can help, and larger media can be a second tier. With a sub dedicated to this topic including some how to DIY a server-node instructions, I'd not only be willing to participate but also donate $10 a month and I'm broke as fuck and never donate nothin to noone for a decade (though I'm updating to Bitcoin to do so). Maybe this isn't exactly "decentralized SaidIt" but this could be a parallel backbone of it.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Reddit and Archive.org are separate, right?

Yep

And use scripts to cross-access/post?

I don't think there's any direct integration, it's left up to random redditors to actually click the link and make the archive happen. Which is I guess me saying it's a janky implementation but works.

I like this outline for a decentralized archive service. If something similar already exists, that'd be even better.