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[–]SMCAB 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Have a rain barrel? Domestic terrorist. Own more than one firearm? Domestic terrorist. Can food? Domestic terrorist.

Really, it's just the system telling you you're a criminal for not handing over all of your money via consumerism to some criminals.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Except this story was fake, so you shouldn't use it as evidence for the worldview you expressed in this post

[–]SMCAB 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Don't be a fag. Those things are listed on what makes a domestic terrorist on the FBI website.

I did no such thing. Learn to read with comprehension, you fucking dolt.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Really. You think that a list on the FBI website shows that everyone with rain barrels is a domestic extremist.

In that case it's going to be really easy for you to drop a link, super easy, any minute now in fact

[–]SMCAB 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Do it yourself you lazy nigger. It's so much more rewarding.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why would I, it's a lie that someone told you and you believed because you're a dipshit. Someone told you that having a rain barrel was criminal, and you believed it so much that you repeat it to other people as if it's true. What a fucking gullible retard you must be. You absorbed an absolutely preposterous fact about the world....as if it was real.

Are you okay with TV and movies? Do you believe preposterous things you hear in movies as well?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I looked it up and couldn't find anything to be honest. I was rooting for you 😔

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (32 children)

Lie. This is fake news.

Fake Claim #1 - Chipit is lying when he says that anyone was incentivised to "inflate" cases of domestic extremism.

Truth: Actually, in the video cited by chipit, Gaetz says the following:

"one of the things Steve Friend bought forward in his whistleblower report is that there were cash incentives given to people in FBI leadership based on case volume."

There's nothing cited by chipit which indicates anything to do with domestic extremism. So how did that part get added to chipit's claim? It got added by a domestic extremist, is my guess.

Fake Claim #2 - Gaetz in chipit's video claims that Friend reported "that there were cash incentives given to people in FBI leadership based on case volume". This was a lie by Gaetz.

Truth: actually this wasn't said by Steve Friend at all! And certainly not part of his whistleblower report. The House committee released the full transcript pdf and cspan has their autosubs available online. He didn't say it.

It was actually said by Garret O'Boyle on Fox news. Somewhere in this video which I don't care to watch.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/whistleblower-willing-homeless-hands-fbi-speak-out

?? Claim #3 - "there is a system in the FBI where the executive management does get a cash bonus if they get gold checkmarks in certain criteria" is the claim made by O'Boyle in the video, as cited by fox below the video.

Truth: who cares? Did anyone care before today how the DoJ maintained gold standards in its field offices? Private sector executives get stock and I know ASAC Hank Schrader isn't walking around with federal treasury certificates. So I don't care whether they use a cash bonus system, I just care that we get through a year without on-site molestations or slippin jimmy lawsuits or whatever fucking KPIs the field offices use. I don't care

[–]SoCo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Yes this was in the whistle blower report. You can't debunk it by attacking hear say.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Link to it. Here, I'll help you. Because you're totally wrong.

https://judiciary.house.gov/committee-activity/hearings/hearing-weaponization-federal-government-2

https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/friend-testimony.pdf

https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2023-05-17-fbi-whistleblower-testimony-highlights-government-abuse-misallocation-of-resources-and-retaliation-sm.pdf

It is debunked and it's totally lies.

"The FBI dispenses cash bonuses to local field office leadership for meeting certain arbitrary metrics and performance goals."

Absolutely nothing to do with domestic extremism and everything to do with running a local field office

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

You linked to the hearsay testimony...

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Yes this was in the whistle blower report

Show me what you mean, then.

I believe I have linked and reviewed all such reports, including the original in-person congressional testimony from the mouths of the quoted parties which is quite literally the opposite of hearsay, you moron

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Morons like hearsay over the actual report.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

SoCo you keep saying hearsay, do you actually know what the word means?

It means an "out of court" statement by a party not under oath.

I have linked to the in-committee testimony from the sworn-in parties, their direct testimony.

That is not hearsay. I am struggling to understand what you think is happening here.

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

That is not what hearsay means....omg

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Be careful not to reply with any specifics SoCo, because then everyone would see you're talking out your ass

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Hearsay has very specific meanings in legal proceedings....but even in general terms, it has a specific meaning. This isn't some vague debatable thing you can troll an argument out of to hide that you are wrong about such a basic thing.

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Just so everyone knows, the above is a paid poster trying to disrupt our conversations on this site. Click the "block user" button above and disengage.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I kind of doubt @Site_rly_sux is paid to troll, as untreated mental illness is far more likely. Just going off comments I've seen in the past day or two though.

The thing I dislike about blocking dysfunctional users is it disables your perspective of reality. Thomas Grays conclusion (bastardized to 'ignorance is bliss') is correct, however the downside is you've cut the flow of information from your environment. Imo, awareness trumps happiness. But who knows? Maybe that's just because:

You haven't a thought of your own, as you've parroted far right abuses and disinformation at Saidit for years and anyone who doesn't join you in the circle jerk you label a leftist and block them, so that you can continue parroting the same far right lies like a good gimp for the .01%.

😁 (This is what you'd miss if you blocked trolls!)

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Weird how the paid posters automatically jump in to defend the powerful and crap on the little guy. Exactly the opposite you'd expect, especially on a site dedicated to dissident political content and free speech. Who writes long graduate student-like research comments telling people off for exposing billion dollar megacorporations for fucking us over?

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not really the opposite. A percentage have always sucked up to the powerful. "Bro, let me be your minion and I'll defend you for the benefits of complicity."

Saidit is pretty far from free speech (hence, my absence), and dissident political content here is far to the left of sites I've been using, despite the trolls that attracts.

As for the "graduate student-like research comments telling people off", your and my reactions kind of point away from that being a paid propagandist, unless I'm still overestimating average IQ. I think a genuine propagandist would look to 'fit in' more, and not be so contrary and obvious.

Regardless, commentary in the near future will likely be dominated by AI bots, if it isn't already on the more popular platforms.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

But if everyone blocks me, how will they come to learn that the fake news you posted was a total lie?

People might still be confused and think it's true, when actually you posted a bunch of lies.

Seriously chipit think about it. You're telling everyone to block me, in which case, they'd be unable to discover that your post was filled with extremist lies.

Hey maybe everyone should block chipit. Then we'd get the same great result of your fakes going nowhere

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

/u/Chipit is a long-time poster who consistently and regularly posts dissident political content, quite unlike what paid posters are employed to do. He's a great example of what this site needs more of.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

More lies.

Everyone should know that Chipit is a new member here and doesn't have anyone vouching for him. His IP address says he's in Quantico and I already caught him posting fakes in this thread.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Block and disengage.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're the proven liar here. I am the trustworthy guy who pointed out all of chipit's lies.

People know which one they should be blocking

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

It was actually said by Garret O'Boyle on Fox news. Somewhere in this video which I don't care to watch.

Who is an FBI agent. So this story checks out aside from someone adding 'domestic terrorism' to the headline.

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

who cares? Did anyone care before today how the DoJ maintained gold standards in its field offices? Private sector executives get stock and I know ASAC Hank Schrader isn't walking around with federal treasury certificates. So I don't care whether they use a cash bonus system, I just care that we get through a year without on-site molestations or slippin jimmy lawsuits or whatever fucking KPIs the field offices use. I don't care

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

well we're all commenting here, so i guess we all care. as a taxpayer, this seems like a perverse and expensive incentive for the FBI. Many of their high profile cases in the last decade are bordering on illegal entrapment.

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

As the program has been explained so far, the only thing it incentivises field officers managers to do, is keep the bathrooms clean and the hallways clear of trip hazards.

Literally everything else is your paranoid imagination run wild.

Did you care before today how US Postal Inspectors are incentivised to maintain high standards in the post office? What if you learned they also get a cash bonus?

What about the city streetsweeping manager. Or the guy in charge of keeping the power grid healthy. What if you learned that they also are rewarded for gold star performance

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The topic is cash incentives for maintaining or increasing FBI case volume, forum slider

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The topic is cash incentives for maintaining or increasing FBI case volume

Nobody said that. It's not supported in any evidence. Neither of any of the so-called whistleblowers alleged that.

On fox news O'Boyle said the cash was for "gold checkmarks in certain criteria".

The Friend pdf I linked said the cash was for "certain arbitrary metrics and performance goals".

So don't call me names and accuse me of being bad faith when it's you who is FAKING IT because you haven't done the requisite reading to challenge me on this topic

Dipshit

Go fuck yourself

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"certain arbitrary metrics and performance goals".

sounds sketchy to me. glad to see you back on topic.

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As the program has been explained so far, the only thing it incentivises field officers managers to do, is keep the bathrooms clean and the hallways clear of trip hazards.

Literally everything else is your paranoid imagination run wild

[–]twolanterns 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

rightwing exremism list some tard provided post jan6 - cases of tax evasion was near top of the list