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    [–]Hel 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

    Also keep in mind the democrats make a theater of accusing Trump of the crimes they themselves have committed and gotten away with so this is just they’re same old schtick

    [–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    This seems a little imaginative. Care to elaborate on any of the specifics?

    [–]Hel 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

    [–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    It's true that Joe Biden leveraged $1 billion in aid to persuade Ukraine to oust its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, in March 2016. But it wasn't because Shokin was investigating Burisma. It was because Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/03/what-really-happened-when-biden-forced-out-ukraines-top-prosecutor/3785620002/

    In any case, trump's crime appears to be espionage.

    [–]Hel 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    How many other foreign officials did Biden quid pro quo out of a job?

    Espionage in what way?

    [–]ActuallyNot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    How many other foreign officials did Biden quid pro quo out of a job?

    I'm not aware of any.

    Espionage in what way?

    From the search warrant:

    Attachment B
    Documents to be seized

    All physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime or other items illegally possessed in violation of 18 USC §§ 793, 2071 or 1519

    18 USC §793 is the law against gathering, transmitting or losing defense information.

    So I guess we're looking at espionage as in gathering and transmitting top secret defence information.

    [–]Hel 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    Right so the same thing Hilary did except probably more secure because Trumps documents weren’t on a poorly secured server

    [–]ActuallyNot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Not all the details are out, but my guess would be no.

    Trump's documents appear to be regarding national security, and he appears to have refused to return them, to the point of not returning these ones, which I would suspect implies criminal intent.

    There may be other explanation for such a blowhard loudmouth. Perhaps he wanted to souvenir some top secret documents. He had a times cover of himself mocked up and framed, so self-aggrandisement is an important part of who he is. He's already referenced the documents Obama has in his presidential library, so perhaps he just stole these and refused to give them back because he's buggered if he's going to let Obama have records of his presidency and he not, and he's also buggered if he's going to go through the correct process, because that would take time and effort, and he's too busy running the business of pocketing money that the magahats donate thinking that it's going to challenging the election outcome in the courts.

    Full disclosure: I suspect criminal intent.

    [–]Hel 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Trump personally refused to return the documents?

    [–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Thanks for your civilised reply.

    What makes the FBI tarnished?