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[–]jamesK_3rd 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I wonder if we are specifically speaking about the United States here?

Most other nations have socialized healthcare, and the USA is the only country on the planet that generally recognized officially individual freedom as part of the country's founding documents and laws. So, it's important to make the distinction, because, right or wrong, the govts of other nations and their socialized healthcare providers largely determine who gets the rationed care and for what, and they determine the worth and value of the individual citizens' life.

I didn't think we here in the US could have the same problem as those in other countries, because we don't fit the mold above, or so I thought.

But for the past 2 years, if you said you had COVID, they would refuse to offer care. Go home, wait, come back when you need a ventilator. Although effective treatments have been known, ivermectin, HCQ, methyl pred, vitamins etc, they would rather murder you after they get govt money for confirming your test.

Ironically, if you go in for a respiratory virus which isn't COVID, they still prescribe a steroid, vitamin D, a nebulizer, an inhaler, and at times an antibiotic ( I know someone this happened to last month Dec) as they got a mild viral pneumonia.

Doctors now have become gatekeepers, as you've seen. Large hospital systems come in and buy up smaller hospitals, private and religious ones as well.

The Hippocratic oath, in it's previous form, is largely irrelevant. Most doctors have no independent thought now. They treat based on CDC guidelines, which is both lucrative for themselves individually and the system itself, and it offers the secondary benefit of removing any liability for the doctor or system, as the treatment are approved govt guidelines. The CDC provides recommendations for approved drugs and treatments, such as Singulair or a vaccine.

It was no lie that the were largely 500 doctors treating patients, largely For the past two years. Most of the rest, followed CDC guidance. Flamboyant or well read doctors sometimes offered their patients monoclonals, depending on who you were.

For the average Joe, getting them was dependent on you the patient demanding them. So even then you had to know about them, demand them from your doctor, and be willing to find another doctor quickly if the current one refused. This is purely with mainstream treatment, such as monoclonals. Off label treatments such as HCQ or ivermectin, or other treatment are generally verboten for doctors and systems that take federal dollars, again, the Hippocratic oath is largely irrelevant now.

We are unfortunately at a time in the US where you must educate yourself, and demand action or be willing to leave to find someone that will provide treatment for you. It isn't fair. But honestly, they make a ton of money off you, even if you die. So "do no harm" doesn't apply to the govt recommended treatments. They would rather murder you, as they get a stipend either way.

We must demand that our legislators remove the gatekeeping ability from doctors and systems. I'd prefer if they shattered the healthcare industrial complex, the healthcare monopolies, and govt payouts, but I largely believe it is too late.

If we have individual states that remove these barriers, we would have places we can go for medical freedom.

[–]raven9[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I wonder if we are specifically speaking about the United States here?

Yeah I was speaking in general about the system of big pharma medications and doctors who prescribe them here in the US. I had not considered whether doctors in other countries are more or less likely to prescribe those medicines with psycological side effects or not.

[–]jamesK_3rd 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There is seemingly much less diversity in treatment now, it's all generally top down.

So there may not be much difference as I said.