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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yes - I see your points, though I also agree and argue that the Clintons deserve quite a bit of criticism for their dirty deals with the GOP. It's horrific that the DNC nominated Hilary. But my problem with Dore is that he's focused only on criticisms, which ring dry after a while, especially when he's not looking at the broader picture, or balancing his arguments, or considering the impossible alternatives. His most recent criticism of AOC is that she's not doing enough. He's really reaching as far as possible to find critical material, and what he's found is that this broadens his listener base and pays his bills. Meanwhile, his followers also focus only on criticisms and not solutions, will not want to vote in elections (because everyone is a baddie), and are impossible to talk with regarding politics because they only know how to whine about every single topic. It's pathetic. Dore is a businessman, and sees that his complaints make money. But by throwing the baby out with the bathwater, he's fucking over the pro-democracy democrats who are trying to make a difference for the 99%, even if they too are limited.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's horrific that the DNC nominated Hilary.

They didn't nominate her. She stole the election from Bernie. Dore was a hardcore Bernie supporter. Something that nazis aren't known for doing.

He has plenty of solutions. Most of which start with "not being corrupt bastards" which eliminates most of the Democrats. Including AOC, who just wore a $30,000 dress to a gala full of pedophile billionaires.

Electoralism is considered a non-starter by the hard left, as you know well being one yourself.

"social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism"

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They didn't nominate her.

They did - that's the legal name for it.

She stole the election from Bernie.

I think there was good evidence of this, but conversations with normal people have to address the fact of the nomination, after which one can discuss the evidence of manipulating votes. Nonetheless, Bernie had an unelectability problem, but I think he would have solved it with his many supporters (including me).

Dore was a hardcore Bernie supporter. Something that nazis aren't known for doing.

Which is why Dore is a fraud. He and some other Bernie supporters who helped get Trump elected are terrible people and caused additional problems for the 99%, as well as Democrats.

He has plenty of solutions. Most of which start with "not being corrupt bastards" which eliminates most of the Democrats. Including AOC, who just wore a $30,000 dress to a gala full of pedophile billionaires.

Yes - the Gala is terrible - but AOC offered an important political message to the "rich" who were at the Gala. She also supported Bernie, and addresses many of the concerns Bernie had. Why do you think she was not a pic for VP? Because of the damn DNC &c. None of this is simple.

Electoralism is considered a non-starter by the hard left, as you know well being one yourself.

I'm a centrist. (Though I appreciate that the extreme right-wing folks here don't see it that way, nor does it matter. Don't make any of this personal or take my comments personally.)

"social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism"

I don't know who you're quoting, but the 1930s concept of German fascism did change significantly by 1939, and is very different today.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

LOL for a centrist you sure are suspiciously up to date on what the hard left thinks. You have their positions - they hate Jimmy Dore just like you and make those exact same arguments.

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Some of my views are left, some center, some right, perhaps like most people in the US. Brief examples:

RIGHT - immigration (send illegals back, without question; there's a process for everone)

CENTER - abortion (allowed only in the 1st trimester)

LEFT - eliminate the electoral college and all votes should be on paper or online (every vote counts)