Amish Farm Fined $250K, Facing Jail Time for Humanely Raising and Selling Food to Willing Customers

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (14 children)

Can't they find middle ground? I'm generally for not dying from my food and regulations play a role in that.

[–]skeeter 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

oh, i see, an alcoholic that wants to legislate me out of being able to drink raw cow milk.

i better fact check that.

when i was a kid, we used to be able to buy "raw milk" at the grocery store and we could also go directly to the dairy farm and buy it there.

that milk was absolutely the bomb. it was very good. this crap that we get at the store now tastes like it has been mixed with radioactive waste.

fyi, i dont know if anybody is allowed to sell "raw milk" to anyone.

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    [–]skeeter 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    i am semi-aware of a few of these issues.. i have watched videos where farmers are not even allowed to setup a fruit stand on the road in front of their farm..

    this is a conspiracy that not many talk about, the disabling of the farmers ability to be farmers.

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      [–]skeeter 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      very nice.

      [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      /s/FoodCrises

      [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      I get mine through the Amish, skeets.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      You ever had a blind taste test between raw and pasteurized milk?

      [–]Optimus85 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      I was a CIP technician at an organic juice company once and had to clean and sterilise the pasteurizer every shift. There are a few centrifugal pumps, holding tanks and pipe connection manifolds in play. You basically run hot water a few minutes through it then run caustic(sodium hydroxide) for a few minutes as well then rinse. It's basically a small radiator that recirculates the liquid to reach a certain temperature(hot water pumped through a different circuit) at which point the thermostat kicks in and releases a solenoid valve that lets the liquid flow to the holding tanks in the post-pasteurization room(That I would wash clean along with the tanks with pressurised foam bleach. I miss the smell.). This isn't relevant to the post. I'm just drunk and reminiscing about one of the few jobs I actually enjoyed. More relevant to the post: I bought ultra-filtered milk recently and the taste was amazing.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      I appreciate the story, that's interesting.

      [–]Optimus85 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      The bottom line is that proper sanitation routines and pasteurization increase shelf life. Here's more info on what CIP is. Those pesky regulations might be bothersome for some but they do prevent foodborne illnesses. Thnaks for reading. I'm even drunker now.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      I'm even drunker now

      Drink moar is my motto.

      [–]FlippyKing 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      in an ideal world regulations, where we are not specifying what regulations nor how they were arrived at nor how they are enforced and what recourse is available to those who disagree with the enforcement, would do as you say. Too often they serve as a means to keep out of business those who can't afford to play the game but who could run a perfectly safe farm and provide perfectly safe food with no more, and likely far less, problems of dying from one's food than food produced by those who can afford to play the game. Most often small businesses are the ones attacked by regulatory enforcement because they can not afford the costs to successfully defend the attack and can not afford to bribe administrations or be part of the revolving door of job-hopping between regulators and business.

      They can't find a middle ground because it is not about the regulations but about punishing those who would fight. This is true in criminal cases as well where prosecutors are very open about demanding tougher punishments for those who refuse plea deals and judges are very open about punishing tougher those who refuse plea deals.