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[–]magnora7[S] 19 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 3 fun -  (27 children)

Building 7 was also the building that stored all the evidence for the missing $2.3 TRILLION the Department of Defense publicly announced was "missing" on 9/10, the day before. Also all the people set to testify about the missing trillions were in the exact part of the pentagon that was hit. So all the evidence and everyone set to testify about it was killed.

What a remarkable coincidence.

[–]zyxzevn 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (13 children)

The story does not end there.
Skidmore has looked into the Pentagon administration and some years ago found $21 Trillion missing.
As a measure, the Pentagon has now moved to fake accounting.
So skidmore studied it from another angle, and finds a missing budget of $90 Trillion.
Here is the video

[–]magnora7[S] 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (11 children)

These are the things I wish people really understood about 9/11. The demolition of those buildings, documents, and people, was a deliberate action done for profit, to cover up a massive crime and then to also create a pretext for the next massive crime: The war in Iraq.

[–]Jesus 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

It was done for a lot of reasons. Atrocity propaganda needed to bolster war response and the unification of the citizens war cry for blood lust intervention.

Gatekeepers will claim: "why would 9/11 be orchestrated for war if they had to lie about WMD's?" WMD's was for Iraq but 9/11 was for the psychosphere.

It was the Straussian noble lie of the neocons "clash of the civilizations" that divided the centuries apart. It was the pretext for the Yinon Global War on Terror and for thr PNACERS "New American Century!"

But as you've said; 9/11 was more than just a pretext. It was also a cover-up. The demolitions destroyed investigations by the SEC on fraudulent financial transaction, and other such crimes. Furthermore, 9/11 was a pretext to amalgamate agencies which Rumsfeld told congress would have to happen and that cryptically he stated "I would never attack thr pentagon", one day before 9/11; before handing out pearl harbor books.

9/11 was also conducted to destroy the twin towers whoch were filled with asbestos. It would have cost billions to clear this asbestos. Demolishong the towers and i suring them for total destruction by Silverstein and hos ZioCon lawyers is exactly what they did. They did not win the full amount but enough.

Everywhere you look... the lawyers, NIST head, FBI head, CIA head, security, airports, etc., etc., all controlled by Zionists.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Well said. Also Freemasonry is a front for Zionism, and Freemasonry is how they get many judges and lawyers and so on. Freemasonry is Zionism under the guise of Christianity

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Freemasonry is Zionism under the guise of Christianity

Exactly. There was a protestant preacher, CIA agent (proven by declassified documents) and of course, a Freemason and staunch Zionist who sent a letter to Harry S Truman to fire an appointed CIA director who was a retired military commander. This commander was against using the CIA for foreign operations. This preacher claimed, I believe his name was Gellgio or something like that, that the CIA director Smith had to go and would make the CIA a place for retired marines and military veterans to work until their death if he did not go. Smith's views were those of JFK. That military operations should ONLY be conducted by the military and only after diplomacy is refused entirely. Anyway, JFK was Catholic, the first Catholic president. Freemasons are against traditional Catholics. Also, notice that many articles have been written about how great this new "Jesuit" pope is for the freemasons. Also, Gellgio the preacher was THE ONE SENT TO ROME by the CIA to sign the anti-JFK pact with p2 lodge.

Research noahide hindu's, noahide Christians, usually in the Christian Zionist sects; noahide muslims. Basically there are many steps to becoming a Noahide which is what teh talmudists are pushing in Rome and Israel. Freemasons are already noahides.

All roads lead to Rome which leads to Jerusalem and the Talmudist/Cabalist Zionists.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yup, all freemasons are Noahides which is pushed by Ziofascism. The Catholic church has also been infiltrated and hijacked by Talmudists. Maurice Pinay and others have exposed this. Traditional catholicism, it being anti-usury and anti-fascism has little control over the Vatican or Rome. The is a new research angle that has concerned some of my time. That's why the Southern and Northern Masonic divisions signed an anti-JFK pact with the P2 lodge in Italy and with the Likudniks and CIA assassinated him, claiming he was too diplomatic to communist states. All of these freemasons, though I suppose there are communist branches in France too, are anti-communist but will fund communist movements for various agendas in states they wish to exploit.

[–]SaidOverRed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Care to pick this apart and explain the good parts vs the bad parts? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noahidism

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just search: stopnoahidelaws blogspot. All the info is there. I eill eventually pick apart noahidism in a post.

Also, Maurice Pinay exposes the pope working with noahide Talmudics.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Asbestos is not dangerous unless it's in the air though. Once it's in paint or some other fireproofing on the inner steel and concrete columns, it is safe.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The problem was much of this asbestos was not up to code and HAD to be replaced. Also they stripped the fireproofing in many areas and it was on many different structures of the building. The buildings for many gentrificationists were an eye sore. There's a book by one Jewish gentrificationist called 'Rubble: The history of demolitions' an artist as well who was a member of the World Views residence program in the twin towers during, yes, you guessed it, when the E-tem and Gelatin art students, austrian Jews, were in the towers as well.

In his book, he tells you straight up that the towers were demolished. lol. Not only that but he lists all the demolition experts he knows, and I'm sure some of them must of played a role in the demolition.

The book is very pompous and show arrogance.

[–]asg101 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And yet billions are spent on retrofitting buildings with asbestos. Billions not needed for retrofitting the destroyed towers.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, when you insure them for total destruction and win billions from it and get the taxpayers to front the rest.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

And the Global War Of/On Terror.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

See also: Catherine Austin Fitts work.

[–]TheJamesRocket 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

The Pentagon investigation into the missing funds was still underway when it was hit by Flight 77. The only offsite backup for their data was at WTC 7.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Jerome hauer.

[–]Jesus 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Was not missing. It was unaccounted for by pentagon comptroller rabbi Dov Zakheim. A Dual-Israeli.

This money was probably used for the 9/11 false flag event.

[–]shariajustice 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

if someone stole 2.3 trillion dollars, isnt that fraud and cant you get arrested for fraud?

now we have them cornered.

[–]magnora7[S] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Who is going to arrest them if they run the justice system and the military? If they effectively subdue the public anger, then they get away with it. That's the real problem

[–]shariajustice 1 insightful - 8 fun1 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

the obvious is to vote for biden 2020.

[–]JasonCarswell 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

You mean Kamala. Never. Always 3rd party!

[–]JasonCarswell 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

You need a whole system to actually take them down. Courts, judges, lawyers, jurors, security, police, prisons, government, authorities, media, public support, etc etc etc.

They are the "authorities". And they get to decide what's worth pursuing or not. They are corrupt. All their systems are corrupt. Corrupt as fuck.

[–]Jesus 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Since, we have a ZOG occupied government, they don't care about laws.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

SEC, IRS, etc. they had tons of litigation and documents on all the bailouts and banking schemes.

[–]SaidOverRed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Normally I'd ask for sauce but I'd figure I'd show my attempts first. Here's what I found: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Department+of+Defense+2.3+trillian+missing+9%2F10%2F01 https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-rumsfeld-says-2-3-trillion-missing-from-the-pentagon.165/ https://web.archive.org/web/20100301161721/http://www.defense.gov/speeches/speech.aspx?speechid=430

So is that it? Case closed? I've never heard of the 2.3 trillion number but it's awfully specific, so you have to be getting that from somewhere. You're not talking about untracked transactions, right? Because I do not want the gov't tracking every financial transaction possible. That would be bad.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Donald Rumsfeld announced it on TV. On CSPAN or something like that. It was a big controversy. A controversy that was then immediately completely overshadowed by 9/11 the next day

[–]yishengqingwa666 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

We remember.

[–]zyxzevn 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Architects and Engineers on WTC-7 Free Fall

And here is the scientific report by the University of Alaska.
A Structural Reevaluation of the Collapse of World Trade Center 7
http://ine.uaf.edu/wtc7

[–]whereswhat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Honest question: what would the motive be to fake the method of attack?

[–]zyxzevn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

There are many.

1- Money, money, money.

a. 2.3 Trillion missing (all traces were destroyed at pentagon and WTC7)
b. Missing gold in cellar of WTC-6.
c. Massive Illegal trading during fires.
d. WARS: Weapon sales, taking over of resources.
e. Insurance money (WTC).
Source: https://www.corbettreport.com/911-trillions-follow-the-money-video/

2- Starting of a new wave of wars

Greater Israel. Was already proposed by Neocons before it all happened.

3- Stop of criminal investigations.

a. People investigating a major fraud were in WTC-1.

4- Installing the security state.

a. Homeland security
b. More power to CIA / NSA
c. More secrecy for illegal actions (like drugs trade with Aghanistan)

There are probably more.

If you look at some good documentaries, they can point out which people were closely involved and were profiting.
And were also covering up their crimes and involvement.

Like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_fp5kaVYhk

[–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It seems to me that everything you have listed could have been accomplished by simply taking down those structures by smashing planes into them. I still just don't see why this theory about an explosive is needed.

From my own engineering point of view, it certianly is plausible that the collapse pattern observed could have originated from overly deformed load bearing elements (due to high temperature) combined with a structural system with reduced redundancy from the impact.

[–]zyxzevn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Feel free to do the calculations and tests, but your "engineering view" is very wrong.
The architects and engineers are very clear in their analysis, and science!

It is basic physics..
Just do a simple energy-analysis.
Where does the energy come from that destroys and pulverises all the concrete and (some) steel.
If the buildings falls down near gravity acceleration, there is no energy to draw from it.

In actual demolitions, this gradual collapse is sometimes used. And it shows a far slower acceleration, that falls down to zero acceleration (=constant speed). They reach some kind of terminal velocity.
In these demolitions, they need to carefully prepare the collapse and remove almost all underlying carrying structures.
Because anything off centre creates an imbalance that increases with each step. This often causes the building to fall sideways, instead of downwards. Or just get stuck half-way.

The planes are just a distraction, only capable of starting severe fires. Just like in a plane crash, we get a fireball and then a quick fire that exhausts all the fuel. According to the firemen the fires were under control, until (according to them) everything suddenly exploded. And if you look more into the planes, you will see that there has been some major mix-up with military hijacking simulations. And the remains of the planes that hit the buildings, were traced back to military versions of planes.

[–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Feel free to do the calculations and tests, but your "engineering view" is very wrong.

I feel I have done this already and I am not sure you have backed up your claim properly. I am a licensed civil engineer with extensive experience designing and analyzing tall buildings. During my phd studies, I actually modeled impact loading and progressive collapse of tall strucutres using the finite element method combined with an averaged langragian-eulerian coordinate system approach to handle the large displacements and deformations. The analyses considered nonlinear deformation patterns, stress and temperature dependency, and a myriad of other factors. I could go on but the point is, I am not afraid to do these calculations myself and I am not ignorant on this topic.

Just do a simple energy-analysis. Where does the energy come from that destroys and pulverises all the concrete and (some) steel. If the buildings falls down near gravity acceleration, there is no energy to draw from it.

Wrong. The gravitational potential energy of the static structure is converted to kinetic energy during the collapse which is dissipated through collisions between falling elements (turbulence) and between falling elements and the ground. The total energy drawn from these collisions is equal to the height of the center of mass times the weight of the mass that is falling (i.e. PE=mgh). Even if we only consider the portion of the building above the impact zone, the energy involved is more than enough to melt steel, pulverize concrete, and even cause a shockwave in the ground that can be measured by seismometers from other states. These towers were about 210m tall and 500000t each! Any "explosion" more energetic would have been obvious for anyone to see I would think.

In actual demolitions, this gradual collapse is sometimes used. And it shows a far slower acceleration, that falls down to zero acceleration (=constant speed). They reach some kind of terminal velocity. In these demolitions, they need to carefully prepare the collapse and remove almost all underlying carrying structures. Because anything off centre creates an imbalance that increases with each step. This often causes the building to fall sideways, instead of downwards. Or just get stuck half-way.

No. I am embarrassed for you after reading this part.

The planes are just a distraction, only capable of starting severe fires. Just like in a plane crash, we get a fireball and then a quick fire that exhausts all the fuel. According to the firemen the fires were under control, until (according to them) everything suddenly exploded. And if you look more into the planes, you will see that there has been some major mix-up with military hijacking simulations. And the remains of the planes that hit the buildings, were traced back to military versions of planes.

What evidence do you have of these claims?

[–]zyxzevn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You are calculating the energy of the building when it finally reaches the ground.
But during the fall, there is no energy lost. (Correction: There is no surplus energy)
All energy goes into the kinetic energy, the acceleration.
This is what you missed in your calculation. (Clarification: Where you calculate the end-state after the fall)
So when there is a free-fall, there is NO ENERGY to break anything or to push out the pieces of concrete.

Even glass plates that immediately break slow down a fall, stunt people use that principle.
In a demonstration by fake-sceptic megabunk, he shows planks falling down, but forgets two things. The sides that hold up the planks are still standing and the planks still fall down with reduced acceleration.

You need the energy of the dynamics of the fall.
The architects and engineers do know. Just check their website. The link I provided above explains it very clearly, much better than me.

More hints:
The firemen reported explosions and streams of molten steel, after the fire was under control.
The steel bars showed clear traces of extreme heat. These bars were heat-resistant with Molybdenum.
They found little pieces of firemen on top of other buildings, not even body-parts or full bodies.
The fires also kept burning for weeks UNDER WATER, which means that there components of some kind of explosives.
The relative cold dust became so corrosive that it destroyed surfaces of cars and metal parts of buildings far away.
Traces of molten Molybdenum was found on top of the buildings.
The dust contained small iron spheres that only comes from vaporized iron/steel.
Never before and never after has a steel-framed skyscraper fell down due to fire, and there were a lot.

There is a huge amount of evidence for demolitions.
And every box for evidence for demolition can be checked (as FEMA will confirm).
And each point that is brought against it, is usually based on a lack of knowledge.

Just check the Architects and Engineers website.
They explain it a lot better than me.
And if you want to go further in depth, check the scientific studies.

And I am sorry for you that you have been lied to for 19 years and may even have killed people for nothing.

[–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are calculating the energy of the building when it finally reaches the ground. But during the fall, there is no energy lost.

Energy is never lost ya ding dong. Unless you think conservation of energy is a hoax too that is.

All energy goes into the kinetic energy, the acceleration. This is what you missed in your calculation.

Haha, no I did not miss the kinetic energy. Re-read my last reply. It is clearly stated that all gravitational potential energy is converted to kinetic energy during the collapse. I am not sure you have done enough reading on how kinetic energy would be dissipated is such a situation (or in general for that matter).

You need the energy of the dynamics of the fall.

You might be referring to the turbulence of the falling objects. This is typically manifested as a dissipation of rotational kinetic energy as members spin around and bang into each other. Again, I clearly did not miss this.

The architects and engineers do know. Just check their website. The link I provided above explains it very clearly, much better than me.

You did not provide a link. I am sure architects and engineers (again, I am an engineer) could describe this better than you can though.

You need to be more wary of confirmation bias. Everything else you just said is irrelevant or nonsensical.

[–]zyxzevn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Compare this website with Ruqqus,
and you will see that most people on Ruqqus are not aware.

[–]Minedwe 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Magnora out here basedposting again

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    [–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    You've been banned for repeatedly dragging discussion down the pyramid of debate, and for repeatedly advocating violence.

    [–]againstfemalerights2 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    😮